Again ignored by @americana
He's willing to gamble the lives of 44 million people because of 1000 Nazis while also expressing xenophobic thoughts yesterday
Hard decision have to be made in war
Don’t ship weapons until the Azov are disavowed. It’s that simple.
Geopolitics of this situation makes it a proxy war basically regardless of what Ukraine itself actually does
I don't think people understand being a proxy has to mean you were forced
wonder how embarassing this thread will be to look back at in a few years
It’s embarrassing rn lowkey
wonder how embarassing this thread will be to look back at in a few years
Why so
nato not helping ukraine basically guarantees russian victory and ukraine becomign a client puppet
im not saying anything else, just this is blatantly obvious
So you're actually in favor of NATO intervention?
Don’t ship weapons until the Azov are disavowed. It’s that simple.
So what I just said is true and you are willing to risk the lives of 44M people because of it
Ok don't have to talk to me about some bullshit that you care about the people of Ukrainian while also being borderline xenophobic
So you're actually in favor of NATO intervention?
no not like that
i do still favour financial and military aid to the ukrainian government, while respecting the risks inherent to it- ukraine is not afghanistan, but it's valid to point out the azov issue
my preferred option would be arm heavily on condition it doesnt get to azov, but i dont see this as likely
no not like that
i do still favour financial and military aid to the ukrainian government, while respecting the risks inherent to it- ukraine is not afghanistan, but it's valid to point out the azov issue
my preferred option would be arm heavily on condition it doesnt get to azov, but i dont see this as likely
And why is that not likely?
wonder how embarassing this thread will be to look back at in a few years
So what I just said is true and you are willing to risk the lives of 44M people because of it
Ok don't have to talk to me about some bullshit that you care about the people of Ukrainian while also being borderline xenophobic
and you think giving weapons to a nazi battalion that is quickly gaining support and membership is gonna help save those lives? Gtfo with thinking I’m xenophobic because I don’t want the exact same thing that happened in Afghanistan to happen here
Respect to the people of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania helping Ukrainian refugees with shelter and food
https://time.com/6151880/ukraine-refugees-russia-romania/
And why is that not likely?
because people probably just dont have that level of foresight or attention to detail
and perhaps they just dont see the nightmare azov scenario as likely
no point number 2 is wrong
afghan victory was a matter of when not if
I'll take your word for it you're a reasonable poster
i agree with you 99% of the time but he isnt wrong
it's reasonable to not want azov to gain weaponry and power
what i do disagree with them on is that it's highly unlikely to result in an afghanistan style situation where azov take the role of taliban parallels
ukraine has stronger civil society, institutions, and democratically assented government afghanistan didnt have
the context is still extemely different

@1887 coming itt to drop the most brain worms uneducated takes ever knowing full well he doesn’t know s***
Get off my d*** I can admit when I'm wrong unlike you