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  • Feb 22, 2022
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    People on here claiming it wasn’t gonna happen looking real stupid right now.
    The only thing they were waiting on was for China’s Olympics to end so they didn’t get in the CCP’s bad books.
    Biden called it and they claimed he was “warmongering”. No, he just had the info. Putin is a disgruntled ex KGB soldier who wants his precious USSR back.

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  • Feb 22, 2022
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    KOLLAPS

    the us is the only country that does genocide rn

    ???

    What China is doing to the Uyghurs is internationally acknowledged as a genocide.

    What a weird thing to say.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    China never shown any aggressiveness like the USA or any other imperialist power had s*** the last time they went to war is 1979 if anything they’d love to continue peaceful develop and increase their strength through economic investment in other countries.

    America id concede since they seem to be on the down turn and acting like a wild animal backed in a corner but i don’t buy it that it would be cause of any republican leader, the republicans are as much of imperialist as the democrats are

    ???

    They’re constantly making threats to Taiwan. Like all the f***ing time.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    ???

    What China is doing to the Uyghurs is internationally acknowledged as a genocide.

    What a weird thing to say.

    He’s saying it ironically. Even then I’d say calling it a genocide is dodgy

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    eye contact

    He’s saying it ironically. Even then I’d say calling it a genocide is dodgy

    It fits all the criteria.

  • Feb 22, 2022
    Maccaveli101

    It fits all the criteria.

    Except for the actual genocide part

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Like mass imprisonment and forced re-education? Yes it makes sense and no one should be in support of it

    But there’s no reason for them to be killing Uyghurs and those claims have already been pretty well debunked

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    I mean s*** I know a Uyghur mainlander who attends my college and he himself says it’s overblown

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    ???

    They’re constantly making threats to Taiwan. Like all the f***ing time.

    I think that’s a different case considering the two governments are in direct opposition to each other and they both claim each other as territory

    Calling the Korean issue imperialism would be similarly incoherent

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    eye contact

    Like mass imprisonment and forced re-education? Yes it makes sense and no one should be in support of it

    But there’s no reason for them to be killing Uyghurs and those claims have already been pretty well debunked

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention#Definition_of_genocide

    It breaks Article II of the Genocide Convention.

    It’s a genocide.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    eye contact

    I mean s*** I know a Uyghur mainlander who attends my college and he himself says it’s overblown

    Don’t “I have a black friend and” me.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention#Definition_of_genocide

    It breaks Article II of the Genocide Convention.

    It’s a genocide.

    Which part of article 2

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    Don’t “I have a black friend and” me.

    Not the same thing my guy

    When someone of the subject ethnicity is saying that western narratives are overblown do you really want me to not believe them because the US government told me otherwise?

  • Feb 22, 2022
    eye contact

    I think that’s a different case considering the two governments are in direct opposition to each other and they both claim each other as territory

    Calling the Korean issue imperialism would be similarly incoherent

    Taiwan aren’t making those threats.

    They just proclaim their rightful independence and vow to defend themselves from Chinese invasion.

    Meanwhile China constantly threatens war and dire consequences to them being independent.

  • Feb 22, 2022
    eye contact

    Which part of article 2

    (b), (c), (d) and (e).

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    Not the same thing my guy

    When someone of the subject ethnicity is saying that western narratives are overblown do you really want me to not believe them because the US government told me otherwise?

    I don’t think you should believe just one experience and go find out what the majority of them are saying.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    I don’t think you should believe just one experience and go find out what the majority of them are saying.

    My guy even with all the stats on the table this still doesn’t make sense

    Overall I’ve read multiple papers and seen enough content for me to not believe that there’s a genocide. What motive would there even be for one? There’s tons of ethnic minorities across China who aren’t Han, including sizable Muslim populations

    The Uyghurs were even exempt from the One Child Policy, like cmon. Why would you suddenly start committing genocide against the group that you exempt from the population control program?

    And have you seen a single consistent claim regarding the conditions of this s***? One claim said they were killing 50,000 Uyghurs a month, which would eliminate the ethnicity in 2 years. Another just yesterday claimed 12 MILLION Uyghurs were imprisoned, which is the total number of Uyghurs living in China

    There’s even documentaries that went into Xinjiang that openly showed that economic development was thriving there and poverty was actively being alleviated

    Why haven’t a single Muslim majority country come forward to claim the same things the US claims? Not even Saudi Arabia which is basically an American lapdog! Where are the refugees to Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, etc?

    The UN Refugee Agency doesn’t even list Xinjiang as a major origin of refugees!! And this is all with the open opportunity to take a bus drive out of Xinjiang to escape this supposed genocide

    It’s all contradictory and I’m not going to call it a genocide as long as the only people claiming it is one is a collection of western governments who’ve already made their anti-China agenda clear. I can provide sources as needed and this is a good start

    leohezhao.medium.com/xinjiang-facts-vs-fiction-bdc2aa403c91

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    eye contact

    My guy even with all the stats on the table this still doesn’t make sense

    Overall I’ve read multiple papers and seen enough content for me to not believe that there’s a genocide. What motive would there even be for one? There’s tons of ethnic minorities across China who aren’t Han, including sizable Muslim populations

    The Uyghurs were even exempt from the One Child Policy, like cmon. Why would you suddenly start committing genocide against the group that you exempt from the population control program?

    And have you seen a single consistent claim regarding the conditions of this s***? One claim said they were killing 50,000 Uyghurs a month, which would eliminate the ethnicity in 2 years. Another just yesterday claimed 12 MILLION Uyghurs were imprisoned, which is the total number of Uyghurs living in China

    There’s even documentaries that went into Xinjiang that openly showed that economic development was thriving there and poverty was actively being alleviated

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuaJGPZCBYU

    Why haven’t a single Muslim majority country come forward to claim the same things the US claims? Not even Saudi Arabia which is basically an American lapdog! Where are the refugees to Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, etc?

    The UN Refugee Agency doesn’t even list Xinjiang as a major origin of refugees!! And this is all with the open opportunity to take a bus drive out of Xinjiang to escape this supposed genocide

    It’s all contradictory and I’m not going to call it a genocide as long as the only people claiming it is one is a collection of western governments who’ve already made their anti-China agenda clear. I can provide sources as needed and this is a good start

    https://leohezhao.medium.com/xinjiang-facts-vs-fiction-bdc2aa403c91

    You talking about anti China sentiment but you posting that video and the s*** you saying is starting to make me think you got skin in the game when it comes to talking up China.

    Here’s some actual boots on the ground reporting for you.

  • Feb 22, 2022
    KOLLAPS

    no it doesnt

    Yikes

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Maccaveli101

    You talking about anti China sentiment but you posting that video and the s*** you saying is starting to make me think you got skin in the game when it comes to talking up China.

    Here’s some actual boots on the ground reporting for you.

    !https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ

    VICE’s founder is the same guy who helped found the Proud Boys while also being funded by the Saudi crown my guy there is no way I’m giving them journalistic credibility

    amp.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/01/vice-media-secretly-organised-20m-saudi-government-festival Like they’ve blatantly lied about their own practices, why are you trying to link them as a legitimate source?

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    VICE’s founder is the same guy who helped found the Proud Boys while also being funded by the Saudi crown my guy there is no way I’m giving them journalistic credibility

    https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/01/vice-media-secretly-organised-20m-saudi-government-festival Like they’ve blatantly lied about their own practices, why are you trying to link them as a legitimate source?

    Bro, you posted a documentary right from CGTN, the CCP’s international wing of their state owned media organisation. And you’re here talking about Gavin McInnes, a guy who left the Vice organisation in 2008.
    So you wouldn’t give a 2019 Vice report with actual boots on the ground reporting credibility but would give it to state propaganda? Nah, you def looking like a CCP shill.

    Bet you believe the videos Scientology got on YT too, huh?

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    Bro, you posted a documentary right from CGTN, the CCP’s international wing of their state owned media organisation. And you’re here talking about Gavin McInnes, a guy who left the Vice organisation in 2008.
    So you wouldn’t give a 2019 Vice report with actual boots on the ground reporting credibility but would give it to state propaganda? Nah, you def looking like a CCP shill.

    Bet you believe the videos Scientology got on YT too, huh?

    You can use the Qiao Collective’s sources then. They’re all independent Chinese diaspora who aren’t citizens of the PRC if you really want sources

    qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    eye contact

    You can use the Qiao Collective’s sources then. They’re all independent Chinese diaspora who aren’t citizens of the PRC if you really want sources

    https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

    Nah, Qiao is the Chinese version of Breitbart. No thank you. Also, super interested that you have all these pro CCP sources on hand!

    May I interest you in a UN report giving evidence of human rights violations and forced labour in these trying times?

    news.un.org/en/story/2021/03/1088612

  • Feb 22, 2022
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