By this same logic, it would make logistical sense for us to integrate the KKK and Proud Boys as official units of the US military in the case of invasion, regardless of the otentisk war crimes they may commit or the violence that they may cause because you armed them with military grade weapons
Does that make logistical sense?
not the same thing
azov is already part of ukraine's military
nobody itt is pro azov or thinks they should stay incorporated into the ukrainian military
all ppl are saying is that prioritizing internal issues in the ukrainian military over an actual full scale invasion doesn't make that much sense. dismantling azov rn would probably be very very difficult to pull off, expecting ukraine to do so in the middle of a war is a little unreasonable. withholding potentially crucial military aid because ukraine is supposed to restructure their military in the middle of an invasion just seems unwise
i Never said that them being integrated makes logistical sense why are you literally making things up
it's logistically stupid to do that [disband them] when you're being invaded
it's logistically stupid to do that [disband them] when you're being invaded
yeah, notice how those are two Different claims
So you think Ukraine shouldn't disavow Azov?
You been watching vaush lately bruh?
no I'm just saying that comparison was not even remotely close to the same thing
yeah, notice how those are two Different claims
They’re directly opposite of each other
You can’t say that it doesn’t make logistical sense to integrate them while saying it doesn’t make logistical sense to disband them
not the same thing
azov is already part of ukraine's military
nobody itt is pro azov or thinks they should stay incorporated into the ukrainian military
all ppl are saying is that prioritizing internal issues in the ukrainian military over an actual full scale invasion doesn't make that much sense. dismantling azov rn would probably be very very difficult to pull off, expecting ukraine to do so in the middle of a war is a little unreasonable. withholding potentially crucial military aid because ukraine is supposed to restructure their military in the middle of an invasion just seems unwise
they had 8 years though
this conflict didnt come out of nowhere its been building up
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no I'm just saying that comparison was not even remotely close to the same thing
Okay so you do think they should be disavowed then?
They’re directly opposite of each other
You can’t say that it doesn’t make logistical sense to integrate them while saying it doesn’t make logistical sense to disband them
it doesnt make sense to disband them in the midst of an invasion
which i've repeated probably 3 times already
and you've for some reason acted like you couldnt read 4 times now
Okay so you do think they should be disavowed then?
Yeah but I understand why they don't and I understand why you are on edge about nazis being "awarded" military weapons
has any ukrainian or polish politician talked about african ppl being denied entrance etc ?
not the same thing
azov is already part of ukraine's military
nobody itt is pro azov or thinks they should stay incorporated into the ukrainian military
all ppl are saying is that prioritizing internal issues in the ukrainian military over an actual full scale invasion doesn't make that much sense. dismantling azov rn would probably be very very difficult to pull off, expecting ukraine to do so in the middle of a war is a little unreasonable. withholding potentially crucial military aid because ukraine is supposed to restructure their military in the middle of an invasion just seems unwise
It’s a 1000 man battalion that is already commiting war crimes and y’all are still here saying it’s unrealistic for people to expect better from government that they are uncritically supportive of
i aint ever spoke about their integration
They’re already integrated. They’re an official unit of the Ukrainian national guard
disbanding them now wouldnt really change much
weapons are being distributed and they'll obviously get their hands on what they need either way
negotiations are at the belarus border
he's not personally going to go he will send a delegation
disbanding them now wouldnt really change much
weapons are being distributed and they'll obviously get their hands on what they need either way
Giving them a home organization to grow and spread influence is exactly what we need to avoid
Yeah but I understand why they don't and I understand why you are on edge about nazis being "awarded" military weapons
Well I also understand why they're not disavowing them. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize my government giving them arms with my tax dollars to put it in language that these Ameribrained mfs itt will understand
Well I also understand why they're not disavowing them. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize my government giving them arms with my tax dollars to put it in language that these Ameribrained mfs itt will understand
And everyone is free to do so
All I said is that a comparison didn't make sense
WELP