Mar 2, 2023This is the civil war we wanted with the Bullet Club years back…but instead this whole thread will be dead by
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Mar 2, 2023·4 repliesMan AEW gets a lot of slack for not having stories, and deservedly so a lot of times. But I do find it a bit nitpicky to go "not like this" when they actually tell one that makes sense.
The entire point is that MJF had months to come up with shenanigans and plans to tilt the match with Danielson in his favor, and he tried but they all failed. He couldn't incapacitate him through his gauntlet, his attempt at mindgames only fired Dragon up, and he's burned through all the allies/associates he ever had. Last night was the point where he realized that he will actually have to go at it with a guy who isn't only more capable than him to go 60 minutes, but is also pissed off and has overwhelmingly more experience than him in big matches, while MJF steps into the ring like 10 times a year.
It's all to make you believe that Danielson not only has a chance, but actually has the upper hand. Otherwise if you go in with the default "both challenger and champion are confident" attitude then you make it fairly obvious that MJF is going to win by virtue of this being his first PPV defense. You could see that at last year's Revolution, no one really though that Adam Cole was going to beat Hangman.
I do think, though, that the way they delivered this story wasn't the best, although I suspect that the primary problem there is the really long break between Full Gear and Revolution. If all this build would've been compressed over 6-8 weeks at max it would've had way more effect.
@barnett this how I will post from now on sir
Mar 2, 2023
John MauveWhip it out. Lemme see when you got
Mar 2, 2023cowboyXXXMan AEW gets a lot of slack for not having stories, and deservedly so a lot of times. But I do find it a bit nitpicky to go "not like this" when they actually tell one that makes sense.
The entire point is that MJF had months to come up with shenanigans and plans to tilt the match with Danielson in his favor, and he tried but they all failed. He couldn't incapacitate him through his gauntlet, his attempt at mindgames only fired Dragon up, and he's burned through all the allies/associates he ever had. Last night was the point where he realized that he will actually have to go at it with a guy who isn't only more capable than him to go 60 minutes, but is also pissed off and has overwhelmingly more experience than him in big matches, while MJF steps into the ring like 10 times a year.
It's all to make you believe that Danielson not only has a chance, but actually has the upper hand. Otherwise if you go in with the default "both challenger and champion are confident" attitude then you make it fairly obvious that MJF is going to win by virtue of this being his first PPV defense. You could see that at last year's Revolution, no one really though that Adam Cole was going to beat Hangman.
I do think, though, that the way they delivered this story wasn't the best, although I suspect that the primary problem there is the really long break between Full Gear and Revolution. If all this build would've been compressed over 6-8 weeks at max it would've had way more effect.
@barnett this how I will post from now on sir
Nigga stole that from macavelli Reddit
- Mar 2, 2023·1 reply
We should start talking in kayfabe in here
OPMar 2, 2023cowboyXXXMan AEW gets a lot of slack for not having stories, and deservedly so a lot of times. But I do find it a bit nitpicky to go "not like this" when they actually tell one that makes sense.
The entire point is that MJF had months to come up with shenanigans and plans to tilt the match with Danielson in his favor, and he tried but they all failed. He couldn't incapacitate him through his gauntlet, his attempt at mindgames only fired Dragon up, and he's burned through all the allies/associates he ever had. Last night was the point where he realized that he will actually have to go at it with a guy who isn't only more capable than him to go 60 minutes, but is also pissed off and has overwhelmingly more experience than him in big matches, while MJF steps into the ring like 10 times a year.
It's all to make you believe that Danielson not only has a chance, but actually has the upper hand. Otherwise if you go in with the default "both challenger and champion are confident" attitude then you make it fairly obvious that MJF is going to win by virtue of this being his first PPV defense. You could see that at last year's Revolution, no one really though that Adam Cole was going to beat Hangman.
I do think, though, that the way they delivered this story wasn't the best, although I suspect that the primary problem there is the really long break between Full Gear and Revolution. If all this build would've been compressed over 6-8 weeks at max it would've had way more effect.
@barnett this how I will post from now on sir
- Mar 2, 2023
Banter aside though keep the same energy about it being discussion when I write essays about true goats like Omos
Mar 2, 2023·1 replyTheNIQlike outside of booking
their production still needs work. they still miss key shots and show way too much on the camera.
like when they have ppl dive into a group of ppl, idk why u need to show them gathering together bracing for impact
fair assessment I've rolled my eyes plenty of times on missed shots and s*** like you mentioned where they show the wrestlers waiting for a wrestler to jump on them...WWE guilty too
also was I the only one who noticed the weird cuts during Hooks entrance last night? almost didn't look like it was live but they kept making these weird cuts as he was walking around the ring
Mar 2, 2023cowboyXXXMan AEW gets a lot of slack for not having stories, and deservedly so a lot of times. But I do find it a bit nitpicky to go "not like this" when they actually tell one that makes sense.
The entire point is that MJF had months to come up with shenanigans and plans to tilt the match with Danielson in his favor, and he tried but they all failed. He couldn't incapacitate him through his gauntlet, his attempt at mindgames only fired Dragon up, and he's burned through all the allies/associates he ever had. Last night was the point where he realized that he will actually have to go at it with a guy who isn't only more capable than him to go 60 minutes, but is also pissed off and has overwhelmingly more experience than him in big matches, while MJF steps into the ring like 10 times a year.
It's all to make you believe that Danielson not only has a chance, but actually has the upper hand. Otherwise if you go in with the default "both challenger and champion are confident" attitude then you make it fairly obvious that MJF is going to win by virtue of this being his first PPV defense. You could see that at last year's Revolution, no one really though that Adam Cole was going to beat Hangman.
I do think, though, that the way they delivered this story wasn't the best, although I suspect that the primary problem there is the really long break between Full Gear and Revolution. If all this build would've been compressed over 6-8 weeks at max it would've had way more effect.
@barnett this how I will post from now on sir
- Mar 2, 2023Nukes
We should start talking in kayfabe in here
start
Does he know
Mar 2, 2023·1 replyGizYou know niggas don't read.lol
Mar 2, 2023·1 replyEvery AEW coming to God post has to end with "WWE does it too" :jordanlaff3:
If y'all don't find that sick idk wtf wrong
- Mar 2, 2023·2 repliesmentalcase420
fair assessment I've rolled my eyes plenty of times on missed shots and s*** like you mentioned where they show the wrestlers waiting for a wrestler to jump on them...WWE guilty too
also was I the only one who noticed the weird cuts during Hooks entrance last night? almost didn't look like it was live but they kept making these weird cuts as he was walking around the ring
just baffles me cuz alot of these guys come from wwe and tv
minor tweaks but sometimes takes me out of a certain match
- Mar 2, 2023El Rey
What do YOU interpret that as?
Mar 2, 2023this thread during the monday night wars would be poppin
- Mar 2, 2023
- Mar 2, 2023TheNIQ
just baffles me cuz alot of these guys come from wwe and tv
minor tweaks but sometimes takes me out of a certain match
the chaotic camera cuts can work to their advantage sometimes for crazier matches but yeah nothing tops NJPW and NOAH
- Mar 2, 2023·1 reply
I have a love hate relationship with WWEs production. I don’t think anyone does it better than them and then I’m like I can’t stand the LEDs and etc.
- Mar 2, 2023TheNIQ
just baffles me cuz alot of these guys come from wwe and tv
minor tweaks but sometimes takes me out of a certain match
That's part of the problem, because WWE has had that same issue prior to AEW. Old habits to break.
- OPMar 2, 2023·1 replyWorld1
Every AEW coming to God post has to end with "WWE does it too" :jordanlaff3:
If y'all don't find that sick idk wtf wrong
Why you so angry cuh?
- Mar 2, 2023·1 replyNukes
I have a love hate relationship with WWEs production. I don’t think anyone does it better than them and then I’m like I can’t stand the LEDs and etc.
the presentation of their shows is dope (big crowds, set designs, etc.)...hate the stupid giant CGI entrance s*** though and Kevin Dunn's camera cuts almost make that s*** unwatchable
- Mar 2, 2023·1 replybarnett
Why you so angry cuh?
I'm eating lunch. Couldn't be happier
Mar 2, 2023John MauveWhip it out. Lemme see when you got
- Mar 2, 2023mentalcase420
the presentation of their shows is dope (big crowds, set designs, etc.)...hate the stupid giant CGI entrance s*** though and Kevin Dunn's camera cuts almost make that s*** unwatchable
CGI s***. has to go
i think the only one i like is the banners that hang for Cody
should put more time into their video packages again
Mar 2, 2023·3 repliesWorld14 refs
1 ladderFirst time I was tossed
