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  • Aug 6, 2022
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    krishna bound

    I'm not really shaming them for doing it for the record, I just think it sucks the economics and bookings are so terrible for women's wrestling (you're def right they're still being booked in a sexualized manner anyway) that they need to do that stuff on the side. Makes me a little depressed ig because it feels like they're always one step from ending up like Chyna who really got played one of the worst hands ever for how she ended up.

    it's not so much being booked in a sexual way but like...Tay, Kiera, Scarlett, Toni, etc....even if they wrestled in less revealing attire you'd still have people perving over them...there's people who watch women's volleyball just to drool over jiggle lol

    if they're comfortable making money on the side doing that I'm not gonna argue it...I agree there can certainly be a dark side to that as well

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    mentalcase420

    it's not so much being booked in a sexual way but like...Tay, Kiera, Scarlett, Toni, etc....even if they wrestled in less revealing attire you'd still have people perving over them...there's people who watch women's volleyball just to drool over jiggle lol

    if they're comfortable making money on the side doing that I'm not gonna argue it...I agree there can certainly be a dark side to that as well

    idk maybe not p***ographically sexual but them continually making angles in WWE of womens wrestlers kissing people (even other women when neither of them are lesbians) is kinda sexualized. and knowing this was largely under Vince given the recent allegations is
    i agree though the severity of how i'm discussing it may not necessarily be accurate to the reality. i just don't like that women's wrestling in the US still isn't taken as seriously as it is in a lot of other countries' promotions.

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    A bit weird to feel some type a way about women choosing to own their sexuality. Same thing with Chloe....like is the puritanical roots of the country f***ing wit people? Like I don't get heterosexual men being bothered by it

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    krishna bound

    idk maybe not p***ographically sexual but them continually making angles in WWE of womens wrestlers kissing people (even other women when neither of them are lesbians) is kinda sexualized. and knowing this was largely under Vince given the recent allegations is
    i agree though the severity of how i'm discussing it may not necessarily be accurate to the reality. i just don't like that women's wrestling in the US still isn't taken as seriously as it is in a lot of other countries' promotions.

    true but they've had women do much worse in Japanese/Mexican promotions too...it comes down to it being their own choice vs a person of power forcing it on them or risk losing their job and whatnot

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    LOCDOWN

    A bit weird to feel some type a way about women choosing to own their sexuality. Same thing with Chloe....like is the puritanical roots of the country f***ing wit people? Like I don't get heterosexual men being bothered by it

    I don't understand how you could possibly read what I'm saying like that. Was Chyna "choosing her own sexuality" when she got f***ed over by WWE, couldn't make enough money in indies while fighting a d*** habit, and was exploited by being forced into p***, something she literally admitted only started after stuff was leaked without her permission and she desperately needed money??

  • mentalcase420

    true but they've had women do much worse in Japanese/Mexican promotions too...it comes down to it being their own choice vs a person of power forcing it on them or risk losing their job and whatnot

    It's all the more power to them if they're legitimately into it but whenever I hear of stuff like McMahon or other bookers (+ their pay vs men equivalently who are literally also on undercards) and what they do I wonder how much of it is really economic or not.
    Like sure they can leave at any time and do something else I guess, but you'd hope that shouldn't have to be the case. I don't doubt some female wrestlers are all for the OF stuff esp. since some like Scarlett were former models, but idk, some of them really don't seem into it. Holidead from MLW basically said in a shoot interview she only considered OF-style photoshoots because it was one of the few things she could do to supplement a wrestling career which wasn't paid well as a rookie because of what's demanded of wrestlers - even undercarders - but ultimately decided against it.

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    Didn’t Athena get a lot of hate from saying WWE wanted the roster to be more like Mandy Rose.

  • Aug 6, 2022
    Nukes

    Didn’t Athena get a lot of hate from saying WWE wanted the roster to be more like Mandy Rose.

    not hate I think Booker T just said that was something she shouldn't have said publicly...he's a shill for the E though

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    krishna bound

    I don't understand how you could possibly read what I'm saying like that. Was Chyna "choosing her own sexuality" when she got f***ed over by WWE, couldn't make enough money in indies while fighting a d*** habit, and was exploited by being forced into p***, something she literally admitted only started after stuff was leaked without her permission and she desperately needed money??

    You said you were uneasy about the OF s*** with the women now, that's what I'm referring to

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    LOCDOWN

    You said you were uneasy about the OF s*** with the women now, that's what I'm referring to

    I'm uneasy because I don't like that women aren't being taken seriously as athletes and performers, aren't getting paid enough and are being put in sexualized situations many of them clearly don't want to be in to make money they deserve to be getting actually paid.

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    krishna bound

    I'm uneasy because I don't like that women aren't being taken seriously as athletes and performers, aren't getting paid enough and are being put in sexualized situations many of them clearly don't want to be in to make money they deserve to be getting actually paid.

    Tbf tho, women athletes (especially wrestlers) never gonna be taken seriously cuz niggas gonna always sexualize them lol

  • Aug 6, 2022

    So why not capitalize on thirsty niggas if you’re them lol

  • Aug 6, 2022
    krishna bound

    I'm uneasy because I don't like that women aren't being taken seriously as athletes and performers, aren't getting paid enough and are being put in sexualized situations many of them clearly don't want to be in to make money they deserve to be getting actually paid.

    What about them making their own OF and adjacent content is indicating that they're being forced to do that

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    SteezLaFlare

    Tbf tho, women athletes (especially wrestlers) never gonna be taken seriously cuz niggas gonna always sexualize them lol

    i agree to some degree there but all i'm saying is the bookers & promoters certainly aren't helping the case very often

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    krishna bound

    i agree to some degree there but all i'm saying is the bookers & promoters certainly aren't helping the case very often

    You mean Vince McMahon. Tony ain't make Jade's h**** ass kiss Tay in the mouth

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    LOCDOWN

    You mean Vince McMahon. Tony ain't make Jade's h**** ass kiss Tay in the mouth

    yeah primarily McMahon as far as making performers do weird s*** but it does happen elsewhere. ofc Tony isn't making anyone do weird h**** s*** on stage

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    krishna bound

    yeah primarily McMahon as far as making performers do weird s*** but it does happen elsewhere. ofc Tony isn't making anyone do weird h**** s*** on stage

    Idk if you've paid attention, or maybe it's just my weird circle of friends and colleagues, but women just embrace that s*** these days. I know models, artists, old classmates, etc who all indulge in their sexuality on the gram. S*** ppl's aunties take twerk classes.

    Like the onus isn't on women to not be sexual to be taken seriously, it's on men to keep the h**** and check and act like a decent human being

    Sounds like respectability politics to me

  • LOCDOWN

    Idk if you've paid attention, or maybe it's just my weird circle of friends and colleagues, but women just embrace that s*** these days. I know models, artists, old classmates, etc who all indulge in their sexuality on the gram. S*** ppl's aunties take twerk classes.

    Like the onus isn't on women to not be sexual to be taken seriously, it's on men to keep the h**** and check and act like a decent human being

    Sounds like respectability politics to me

    there's a reason i'm not criticizing female wrestlers for taking sexy pics on IG or Twitter though, i'm criticizing promotions not paying them well enough to where they need to supplement it through these means. ofc there's people like scarlett who are models who clearly like doing it, but it's a wide range

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    LOCDOWN

    You mean Vince McMahon. Tony ain't make Jade's h**** ass kiss Tay in the mouth

    Jade kissing Tay was a memorable moment plain and simple lol even taking the sexual factor out of it that just caught you off guard and made the match more interesting for me lol I interpreted it more as "I can do whatever I want and you can't do s*** about it" to which Tay responded by kissing Jade back later in the match...wasn't like they just started tonguing each other for the hell of it (well...not completely for the hell of it lol)

  • Jesus Christ

    This page is atrocious

  • Aug 6, 2022
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    mentalcase420

    Jade kissing Tay was a memorable moment plain and simple lol even taking the sexual factor out of it that just caught you off guard and made the match more interesting for me lol I interpreted it more as "I can do whatever I want and you can't do s*** about it" to which Tay responded by kissing Jade back later in the match...wasn't like they just started tonguing each other for the hell of it (well...not completely for the hell of it lol)

    JR almost f***ing short circuited

  • Aug 6, 2022

    I never knew I wanted to see PCO v Darby Allin but I really wanna see it. LOL

  • LOCDOWN

    JR almost f***ing short circuited

    idgaf what ANYONE says Revolution 22 was amazing and still my favorite PPV of the year...Forbidden Door is right up there for sure but Revolution was f***ing insane to me...Britt and Rosa was mid but otherwise I very much enjoyed that entire card and there was just a crazy energy that felt like everyone was trying to have the match of the night and outdo what we had just seen...definitely ran a little too long but even the Buy In matches were bangers

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