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  • Aug 31, 2021

    Kim Foxx is the cook county state’s attorney. Her main motto, along with other progressive prosecutors throughout the country, is changing the way we do prosecution and rehabilitation instead of incarceration. Which on paper looks great but with our current infrastructure in those matters, does not work.

    Instead of rehabilitation she is creating a safe haven for criminals by refusing to prosecute cases or relying on similarly progressive judges to give i bonds or low bonds, not deterring crime at all. She has said many times that she wants to basically ignore low level crime and focus on only violent crime but:

    cwbchicago.com/2020/09/officials-insist-affordable-bail-does-not-contribute-to-chicago-violence-but-court-cases-tell-a-different-tale.html

    If you aren’t even going to prosecute violent crime, that mantra and stance doesn’t hold water. I for one def think we need a refresh of our justice system because it is rooted in racism and easy for rich ppl to get away with crimes but letting criminals go with no or low charges for violent crime without any counseling or help? How is that helping anybody? I understand it’s not her job alone to fix the entire system but she is definitely not helping. All while ppl go out and commit crimes over and over again:

    Not even mentioning the murders, There have been over 1000 carjackings this year alone and a rise of robbery and assault as well.

    But finger pointing and not providing solutions all works out:

    All while Chicago suffers:

    I lean all the way left and voted blue and for progressives on every ballot I can because I agree with their stance. Kim Foxx was the only democrat I did not vote for during the last election. It is quite obvious that she is only out to serve her own political interests(just like lightfoot but that’s a different thread) rather than helping the same communities that she claims to support. There’s a line and a middle ground in this conversation and Foxx and her office are way off it. What are your thoughts?

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    Can't reform the system. We've known this for the past 100 years yet we keep trying again and again to make it ethical. It won't happen.

  • Aug 31, 2021
    space0cadet

    Can't reform the system. We've known this for the past 100 years yet we keep trying again and again to make it ethical. It won't happen.

    Yep

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    "Most people realize that crime is simply the result of a grossly disproportionate distribution of wealth and privilege, a reflection of the present state of property relations. There are no wealthy men on death row..

    There are more prisons of all categories in the US than in all other countries of the world combined.

    Imprisonment is an aspect of class struggle from the outset. It is the creation of a closed society which attempts to isolate those individuals who disregard the structure of a hypothetical establishment." - George Jackson

  • Aug 31, 2021
    space0cadet

    "Most people realize that crime is simply the result of a grossly disproportionate distribution of wealth and privilege, a reflection of the present state of property relations. There are no wealthy men on death row..

    There are more prisons of all categories in the US than in all other countries of the world combined.

    Imprisonment is an aspect of class struggle from the outset. It is the creation of a closed society which attempts to isolate those individuals who disregard the structure of a hypothetical establishment." - George Jackson

    We need to invest into communities, invest in youth counselors, community centers, get rid of liquor stores on every corner and give hope to kids and people who grow up around violence. But releasing violent offenders while just hoping they don’t commit another crime is asinine.

  • Just do what sweden do with their prisons

  • Aug 31, 2021

    abolish the carceral state

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    Seems to me like she’s more willing to throw away d*** cases (this is a good thing), and that skews her overall felony charge drop rate. If you look at the chart that compares her to her predecessor, she is very close for the actual violent crimes.

    For someone dealing with thousands of people, a couple cherry picked examples like the serial escapist getting electronic monitoring isn’t enough to convince me she is causing harm.

  • Aug 31, 2021

    Instead of rehabilitation she is creating a safe haven for criminals by refusing to prosecute cases or relying on similarly progressive judges to give i bonds or low bonds, not deterring crime at all.

    This isn’t what actual well informed progressives campaign for

  • Aug 31, 2021

    The prison system must be totally abolish and reconstructed from the ground up before any sort of “progressiveness” can be applied to it

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    Smoofer

    Seems to me like she’s more willing to throw away d*** cases (this is a good thing), and that skews her overall felony charge drop rate. If you look at the chart that compares her to her predecessor, she is very close for the actual violent crimes.

    For someone dealing with thousands of people, a couple cherry picked examples like the serial escapist getting electronic monitoring isn’t enough to convince me she is causing harm.

    What about the significant rise in crime and the 40 and counting ppl who have been rearrested for shooting somebody while on bond for another felony case?

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    "I lean all.the way left"

    Why lie lmao

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    Anyways

    Abolish the carceral state

  • Sep 1, 2021
    Synopsis

    Anyways

    Abolish the carceral state

    yeah excepts for the kulaks and the anarchist counter-revolutionaries

  • Sep 1, 2021
    Synopsis

    "I lean all.the way left"

    Why lie lmao

    I’m not lying

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    The Man

    What about the significant rise in crime and the 40 and counting ppl who have been rearrested for shooting somebody while on bond for another felony case?

    Hmm can we attribute that rise in crime to her? I think 2020 would’ve led to a rise in crime no matter the state attorney

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    Smoofer

    Hmm can we attribute that rise in crime to her? I think 2020 would’ve led to a rise in crime no matter the state attorney

    Fair point if 2021 hasn’t been worse, which it has

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    The Man

    Kim Foxx is the cook county state’s attorney. Her main motto, along with other progressive prosecutors throughout the country, is changing the way we do prosecution and rehabilitation instead of incarceration. Which on paper looks great but with our current infrastructure in those matters, does not work.

    Instead of rehabilitation she is creating a safe haven for criminals by refusing to prosecute cases or relying on similarly progressive judges to give i bonds or low bonds, not deterring crime at all. She has said many times that she wants to basically ignore low level crime and focus on only violent crime but:

    https://twitter.com/chicagotribune/status/1292858342822617088

    https://cwbchicago.com/2020/09/officials-insist-affordable-bail-does-not-contribute-to-chicago-violence-but-court-cases-tell-a-different-tale.html

    If you aren’t even going to prosecute violent crime, that mantra and stance doesn’t hold water. I for one def think we need a refresh of our justice system because it is rooted in racism and easy for rich ppl to get away with crimes but letting criminals go with no or low charges for violent crime without any counseling or help? How is that helping anybody? I understand it’s not her job alone to fix the entire system but she is definitely not helping. All while ppl go out and commit crimes over and over again:

    https://twitter.com/cwbchicago/status/1430582475651174411https://twitter.com/cwbchicago/status/1430145867470852120https://twitter.com/cwbchicago/status/1430395777134772227https://twitter.com/cwbchicago/status/1429373276267106309

    Not even mentioning the murders, There have been over 1000 carjackings this year alone and a rise of robbery and assault as well.

    But finger pointing and not providing solutions all works out:

    https://twitter.com/sakimfoxx/status/1412500459613573125

    All while Chicago suffers:

    https://twitter.com/w_h_thompson/status/1432181957224501252

    I lean all the way left and voted blue and for progressives on every ballot I can because I agree with their stance. Kim Foxx was the only democrat I did not vote for during the last election. It is quite obvious that she is only out to serve her own political interests(just like lightfoot but that’s a different thread) rather than helping the same communities that she claims to support. There’s a line and a middle ground in this conversation and Foxx and her office are way off it. What are your thoughts?

    If you actually look at that breakdown, you see that not is Kim Foxx seeing less cases than her predecessor, which suggests an overall decrease in the crimes mentioned, but her overall percentage of dismissals is only 10% higher than her predecessor's. I'm sure she gets it wrong at times. I'd need to know the context of those burglaries to try and understand why she might've thrown that extra 5% of cases out and same for that extra 2% of DUIs, but those eyebrow-raising stats aside, from a distance it seems like she's doing a good job. How much longer do you want to try the "Tough On Crime 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😡" approach?

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    Beast Man

    If you actually look at that breakdown, you see that not is Kim Foxx seeing less cases than her predecessor, which suggests an overall decrease in the crimes mentioned, but her overall percentage of dismissals is only 10% higher than her predecessor's. I'm sure she gets it wrong at times. I'd need to know the context of those burglaries to try and understand why she might've thrown that extra 5% of cases out and same for that extra 2% of DUIs, but those eyebrow-raising stats aside, from a distance it seems like she's doing a good job. How much longer do you want to try the "Tough On Crime 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😡" approach?

    Video and eyewitnesses, no case?

    🤷‍♂️

  • Sep 1, 2021
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    The Man
    https://twitter.com/cwbchicago/status/1426716017045037056

    Video and eyewitnesses, no case?

    🤷‍♂️

    That article had two weird scenarios where I don't get why charges weren't issued. TOC 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😡 has decades filled with weird (see also: immoral) scenarios where innocent people are unjustly incarcerated, even despite evidence that they were innocent and/or non-violent offenders have their lives ruined. Your vice-president is a participant in that, in fact.

  • Sep 1, 2021
    Beast Man

    That article had two weird scenarios where I don't get why charges weren't issued. TOC 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😡 has decades filled with weird (see also: immoral) scenarios where innocent people are unjustly incarcerated, even despite evidence that they were innocent and/or non-violent offenders have their lives ruined. Your vice-president is a participant in that, in fact.

    Oh for sure. Like I said in the op the system def needs to be reformed but I just don’t think Foxx is the right person to do it. 🤷‍♂️

  • Sep 2, 2021
    The Man

    Fair point if 2021 hasn’t been worse, which it has

    Lol yeah 2021 everything’s fixed. Everyone homeless and starving last year is doing good now, pandemic over

  • Sep 2, 2021
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    CWBChicago been known for their bias. You can read more at the Chicago justice project:

    chicagojustice.org/2021/05/17/analysis-of-cwbchicago-citywire-and-the-chicago-contrarian

    She’s rejecting more d*** cases which skew her overall numbers that’s it.

  • The problem is that we don't just outlaw people anymore. Let the community handle its criminals without fear of prosecution

    Guarantee you get a lot less pedophiles and violent gang members when the law stops protecting them