what the f*** man

that document is horrific

Exactly!!!! Pharrell barely had the influence to get Clipse’ 2nd album released, but we’re supposed to believe he could get Pusha next to Noam Chomsky and Prince Andrew

no normal nigga is that close with Diddy even pre-allegations

ITT: Lotta bad faith actors over literally unverified hotline FBI anonymous tips

Once again an anonymous tip is not the same as there being photos of you on all fours over a woman (unlike Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor) for example.

Epstein was a known racist who was talking eugenics science with silicon valley niggas, including saying s*** like Black kids’ brains “are slower at learning high-level concepts” but adds that they maintain high motor skills that make them better adapted “to a more hunting/running style of life.”

Weinstein was so racist that while he was silent when most of hollywood was pulling out receipts, he INSTANTLY did the "whoa b**** shut up" type s*** when Lupita of all people came out with her story.

I'm 100% positive beyond a reasonable doubt that a man like Harvey is not running a 2 man with rappers. Rappers don't make great bargaining chips. Especially not an unknown Jay Z at the time that was still known in other circles as Hawaiian Sophie and DEFINITELY not a still Clipse-attached Pusha T that just dropped the We Got It 4 Cheap 2 tape with Re-Up gang the year before.

I'm sorry but I'm not buying it.

I'm sure in this 124 page thread it has been loads of talk about timing of this (which was supposed to release a couple of days ago) and how they were still redacting and removing other names, mainly those of trump while leaving others or how sloppily this was done...almost like it was to throw people off of a recent arres...

nah, I'm sure ktt2 was on top of that.

This was also why I said in the original Epstein files thread that even if all the names was ever dropped with every politician/person of high interest, there's literally nothing you could do. Besides the ones that are directly linked with evidence of communication with epstein or harvey besides anonymous tips nothing in these files you could say make a firm court case out of unfortunately.

this isn’t alleging that he trafficked the women, he was just a “handler”. so he was probably dealing with people who were already “taken in” and had their spirit broken. keeping loose ends wrapped up after the fact, not bringing in girls to the operation. doubt they woulda had him do much besides manage the victims and pass information or maybe push certain business agendas.

and you believe 2007 pusha t is doin that?

man couldn't handle his label deal with jive and you want us to believe he could be a handler with victims?

Rappers don't make good bargaining chips. Not that important enough.

This from an anonymous hotline

Gonna repost this again

It’s sad people will go forward with this info out of context

@Fries yall posts gonna get ignored because this thread was doomed from the start. Littered with bad faith actors that have a personal stake in seeing the both of these niggas named listed bleed out.

and as someone that don't like hov, I think that s*** is just corny and lame. Niggas that don't even care about the victims man.

a lot of naaaaaaaasty posting going on.

the allegation is that pusha t was cooperating with whoever was running the epstein operation (probably FBI, CIA, or Mossad). are we really saying it is absolutely impossible that pusha t, a guy who says he ran around with copious amounts of d**** before getting famous, got caught w a lot of weight and was flipped into a federal asset? maybe he was just a regular informant at first and was repurposed once he became a record label exec or smth.

yes ppl were dumb racist back then but i dont think they were too racist to flip a black man and make him informant

I like Pusha a lot, he's one of my fave rappers ever, but I was fully prepared to drop him after seeing the first few details of this, but reading the whole thing, it just legit reads too similarly to schizophrenic (in a clinical sense, not trying to be insulting) delusions I've heard from people affected by those conditions before

I just don't buy that you could be d***ged and abducted, wake up to see Harvey Weinstein and Jay-Z at the same secret s***party in 1996 and realise 'Hey, this is Jeffrey Epstein's Florida mansion', it just reads like a dream

Yall doing a lot off an anonymous hotline source

People want Jay gone so bad lmfao

Jay was friends with Diddy

2 x Collaboration Albums with R.Kelly

Got with Foxy, Aaliyah, and Bey when they were young

Told M.I.A to get plastic surgery.

He's Ed Kemper without the swag. He deserves to be underneath the jail

all im saying is that we know there have been famous rappers that were also likely informants at some point in their life. its not as big of a reach as people make it seem. all this is really alleging is that pusha t was working with three letter agencies, which isn’t an unreasonable trajectory if we admit it’s possible pusha got flipped.

it doesn’t have to be willing participation. i mean as a “handler” this dude would not be involved with finding girls, moving them around or wtv. his alleged role is relatively small, he just has to keep victims that have already been mentally broken in check. no indication that this was a long-term position either. there’s multiple ways someone coulda very reasonably had leverage over pusha to make him do something like this. he was with pharrell when p was hanging out with diddy a lot, maybe he was blackmailed himself. or again maybe it’s the regular snitch story, dude just got caught with way too much weight and the only way out was to do some favors for the govt.

it’s interesting how for the past 2 years Drake fans have been brow beating and moral posturing on anybody that was cracking jokes about Drake being a pedophile, and then the moment one of the artists on the opp list are hit with allegations they can’t wait to troll, spin narratives, and crack jokes

goes to show it’s never about taking this sort of stuff serious, it’s about protecting papi at all costs

On files so sloppily released that there is more redacted on the perpetrators than the actual victims man wtf we doing here

Why do people have such a hard time believing Jay Z is a bad guy? Isn't his whole thing that he only cares about money and sells d**** to people

People running cover for this that absolutely wouldn’t if different names were present instead of these two.

well yes. again, we gotta remember the scope of what is actually being alleged. pusha t is brought up as nothing more than a handler. meaning his only important qualifications were the ability to be in the right rooms at the right time and not set off alarm bells. and his only responsibility would be meeting the victims maybe a few times a month to give them their d**** and make sure they were in check.

he doesn’t need to be a super important player in the industry or hold any kind of executive power to do that. in fact it would probably be easier for him to be a handler if he wasn’t that high profile.

again desi banks was cooperating with israeli intelligence, does desi banks hold a wealth of institutional power, or is he just a useful asset because of his access to a certain audience and certain connections?

Would say this if insert your smiley rapper was named too bruh bruh.

Rappers just arent that important enough.

His account/LLC being used is not the same as a desi banks skit being a highkey mossad-sponsored ad bro you might legitimately be crazy with all due respect.