i said solo and daytona is not lol its just his stans.

"Take Care" isn't classic lol, it's just his stans.

if daytona is a classic than the word classic has no meaning. If we just call every 7.5/10 album a classic what's the point

Literally s***s on anything Drake's ever put out.

It doesn't lmao. But just because an album is good doesn't make it a classic.

This guy so weird. Drake doesn’t talk to you in the first place 🤣

Nah take care just a massive album worldwide. You hear songs outside until this day. It’s impacted culture

Daytona just has internet stans talk no culture impact .

If we're going off an "objective" pov, then it does cause it runs laps around every Drake record in terms of accolades & critical acclaim.

Aubrey's never broke an 80% on Metacritic.

So, if we're going THERE, he doesn't have a single classic body of work under his belt.

Influence? Sure, but that does not equate to a record being deemed "Classic".

He lives off his singles, that's all he's ever done.

& if you're a fan of this Hip-Hop s***, you'd realize he's a vulture of the culture.

He's whack to us as a self-proclaimed "Hip-Hop" artist.

But as a pop-artist, he's aight.

You don't get my point lol, I agree that "Take Care's" a classic record, but him saying "Daytona" isn't solely based off a subjective pov since he's a Drake stan is wild to me.

I f*** with that album heavy, but aside from that, he really hasn't done s*** & a majority of his work outside his singles never lands & always falls flat.

I f***s with Push heavy cause he embodies our culture & makes better product over all.

& that's not just me. I know it's mostly a popularity contest in debates, but when you put them side to side, Aubrey won't last a second against Push.

"Accolades and critical acclaim" is just a select group of mainly white people reviewing music.

Here are two of the "critics" you are looking to for validation

I'm pretty sure dark skins would talk Push over Wheelchair Jimmy too...

Daytona is just critically acclaimed by rap media but it isn’t a “classic” in the same way as major rap classics are. It has no big songs, nothing culture moving, it’s not the most memorable music of its time period etc it’s just a 20 minute project people liked

I ain’t heard anything from Daytona outside or anyone’s whip until this day . It’s just a good lil EP / Album

You were just using the scores from them as a reason why Push is better lmao

So what you're telling me is since it doesn't get any radio time, it isn't classic?

"Madvillainy", "Cold Vein", "Funcrusher Plus", "The Unseen", etc. Aren't major Hip-Hop classics?

Hip-Hop's horizon is faaaar more broad than how you're taking it.

correct.

Album cant be irrelevant and be a classic.

You're not getting my point.

Subjectively, you're taking Aubrey, I'm taking Push.

Objectively, the culture's choosing Pusha over Drake.

Apples n' Oranges, everyone has their taste.

Objectively, the culture's choosing Pusha over Drake.

You know what objectively means right?

objectively the culture already chose drake 💀

your point was looking at critic scores than i posted who gave those scores and i assume you don't want them to decide what's better correct?

Correct what? If you believe none of those records I just named off aren't classics, then 1. you're trolling or 2. there's something seriously wrong with you.

If we're strictly talking mainstream, I still don't think anything in Drake's catalog aside from "Take Care's" a classic.

But of course it's gonna be the bigger album than "Daytona" cause Push really isn't viewed as mainstream.

Doesn't mean his album isn't classic though,

madvillany only one that has an argument.

Define classic

drake won

Sky is blue.

I didn’t mention radio.

An album like madvillany can’t be compared to Daytona. You actually feel the impact and love for it outside of the internet even if it’s on a more underground level. Stop

on a separate note Daytona is also a major record label release not independent.

Pusha T wouldnt be relevant at all unless it was for Drake and he hasnt been relevant since. He won the beef only because it was cut short. You all act like the internet is real life. Maybe because most of you are in highschool lol. But if it went further people probably would've gotten hurt. Why would someone at the top want that? Makes no sense. You all need to grow up. Dumb thread about a topic no one cares about anymore. No one talks about the meek mill drake beef anymore. No one should talk about this. All of it is years ago. Move on.