I agree with Joe, when I seen the ending of Hollywood with Brad bashing the girls head in, I was also thinking "wow they actually allowed this, in today's climate"

lol QT basically hates the typical character arc

100%

Damn, he's only doing one more movie

I don't like his point about 50's American cinema was the worst decade, but yet got a lot of great films are being made. Until they loosen the Hays Code after Some Like it Hot to make it little bit liberal.

The only thing the man really gets it right is american cinema from 1965 to 1980. Other than that he says stupid s*** like "Usually the worst films in their filmography are those last four at the end."

I mean he’s right about that

You can name exceptions all you want but for the vast majority of filmmakers, their last ones are their worst

Enter The Dragon > Fist Of Fury

I really liked the Bruce Lee scene

No, he isn't. What he means is that usually "those last four at the end" are not explosive, youthful, rebellious, inventive, iconoclast films, but rather more classic and somehow more investigative of their own auteurism, as Tarantino is someone that values the first thing way more than the other, it's not a surprise he thinks that way.

best scene ever

Hot take but Way of the Dragon > both of those movies

He has a point honestly

OUATIH still my favorite Tarantino film tbh

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in my top 2 QT movies. I didn't even realize it until my rewatch not too long ago.

Or they’re just not as good or memorable

Hitchcock, David Lean, John Ford, Howard Hawks, John Frankenheimer, most filmmakers really are gonna be remembered for their early or middle films. Their last films were either s*** or just “fine”. Not everyone is a Clint Eastwood or George Miller or Scorsese and even then I don’t think Tarantino wants to be any of those guys because he wants each one of his films to be a gigantic event or moment.

It’s not to say the last films are always bad or mediocre, but for the most part, they’re most likely not going to be culturally impactful. Tarantino clearly wants all his films to be memorable and iconic and that’s what he’s going for.

The other thing I disagree with you though is the notion that Tarantino doesn’t care about self reflection. I would say OUATIH is very self reflective of Tarantino’s love of violence and pop culture and his own auteurism and treatment of history is examined within that film. I feel he values that side as well. What he doesn’t value is having those films at the end that everybody says is “fine” or “good” but just obviously not at the quality of what came before.

There's great films went under the radar during the 80's other than the collective mainstream films like the action films of Arnie and Stallone. It has bit of the spirit of New Hollywood though like To Live and Die and L.A.

John Ford, Hawks? In what way are they not remembered by their last films? 7 Women, Red Line 7000, some of the best films ever?

"It's not to say the last films are always bad or mediocre, but for the most part, they're most likely not going to be culturally impactful". That's what I said, and that's what Tarantino thinks as well, that's why he values something like Ordet or Vampyr more than Gertrud, or the dollars trilogy more than Once Upon a Time in America (his best), or the 50s John Huston movies more than The Dead (his best, by far), or even Clockwork Orange or 2001 instead of Eyes Wide Shut (again, his best), or A Shot in the Dark instead of Skin Deep or Switch, and on, and on, and on...

I agree about OAUTIH, that's what makes what he said even more stupid, it doesn't even apply to his own work. He certainly doesn't get better as he gets old, but he made his best films during the worst moments of his career (Death Proof and OUATIH, inbetween or after two horrible movies), so even his own body of work goes against the thought that a filmography usually grows in a positive or negative way, It's more complicated than that, but it's easy to say that "those last four at the end" suck.

I agree, including some from the directors he worships, like Lock Up, Best Seller, Iguana, Cop, The Moderns, etc

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OUATIH is deff self reflective. I always felt like Leo's tirade when he's describing the book to the child actress was meta as hell in a sense. And the usage of Vanilla Fudge's "You Keep Me Hangin' On" while Cliff is killing the s*** out of the Manson family felt meta as hell too, on some "we all know this is what you came to see" type s***. Wish i could elaborate more

he talks about kill bill but doesn’t bring up the whole bloody affair edition

it aint never coming