because if we’re being completely honest, some belittle the overall genre

and i say that as someone that has genuinely seen it. lack of writing, lack of honing the craft, watering down vocal performances by masking with lazy autotune, lack of creativity, etc

some niggas dont even try to perform their records when recording, just have their engineers do the heavy lifting by punching in

im not discussing albums, im talking pure ability to rap, jim

Kinda crazy that TI is the only one out of those three that’s still capable of making a good album.

What can you do with that tho

Drake can
Kendrick can
Jay can
Nas can

the same thing you can do by using projects to establish your argument

not rocket science

he’s talking about kanye and wayne lol

My bad, I was talking about his big 3. Ye and Wayne

He would be correct then.

Oh I don’t mean for arguing.

I just mean for my own daily use.

You are correct then sir.

Cole is genuinely one of the worst hip hop artists of all time

Never heard one good song by him

oh in that case then you can listen to freestyles

2 > 1 > 3

You wearing out those 4 j cole freestyles?

It’d be better if he was actually bad

He’s just painfully mediocre.

Overlapping years doesn't tell the whole story in this context. We know that what people wanted from rap changed in the mid 2010's. That's why back before it was "the big 3" and was "top 5 of the blog era", back when Wale and Big Sean were in that conversation, Future wasn't in it. That's not a knock on him, it's just an accurate portrayal of what things were and what they are now.

This, I see this all the time, people get those timelines mixed up badly and think they all ran at the same time. Anything post 90s pre-2005 gets lumped into 1 year almost.

i sure am

That run would've lasted longer but he gave all the records away

Unfortunately I have lol.

There’s a lot of would’ve should’ve couldas to be passed around s*** big and PAC run would have blocked Hov and Em from running the game if they ain’t die it is what it is

My point being the run wasn't the thing that was focused on

I think that’s what makes him one of the worst. It’s not that the music is so painfully unlistenable but it’s the fact he has never done a single thing in his life to progress the art form or challenge anyone. It’s literally the lowest common denominator of past sounds that’s been lightly touched up to sound as inoffensive as possible. Theres zero personality to any aspect of his art, from the raps to the beats to the album concepts.

Atleast with 6ix9ine or 645ar or these other trash artists, they’re doing something that’s atleast risky, as unlistenable as it is. I appreciate that more than j Cole any day