How do people stomach this? How do 2 guys who made pretty good music for entire careers come together and make le epic tunes? Is it age? Success?

You must develop a tolerance for true coworker music

Tbh I don’t hear a ton of difference between Run The Jewels and any of the El-P albums after Fantastic Damage, so I’d say blame him

I cant believe the dude who made funcrusher and cold vein turned into making rap made exclusively to be put in commercials

I'll Sleep When You're Dead is good

the first 2 are good

the rest im good

That’s pretty true I guess

i liked the first one but then i saw them become beloved reddit music in real time

I can see why you’d think that but I disagree

ISWYD sounds nothing like C4C and RTJ.

I like rtj but it's a step down from El-P's first 2 records imo

This is bad!

i dont listen to the 2 anymore but it was def of "the time" and the era of the underground within the underground "hiphop culture war" with itself

i do think a lot of the beats are still unique and hard tho

Funny enough I think they got better with each release but I can definitely see the argument either way as well a the argument OP is making. It's def got reddit-tier dad rap written all over it. El's production is still insane imo

RTJ3 had some stuff I really liked on it prob my favorite of them but 4 was when I officially grew off them

If they knew what was good they would leave well enough alone

Nah their s*** was good don’t be a hater for no rzn

Not sure their music has aged very well. Also Mike high jacking it with his political views.

RAP Music might actually be their best collab though.

Classic

i think the biggest issue with rtj is that it overstayed it welcome and they kinda lost the plot with the motives and "point" at least audience wise

i think after the two album n the ep was all there is then it would be looked at more favorably in retrospect

2 is considered the best and the only one i hear in great regard still to this day

s*** used to slap when I was 16 but yeah I’m not a teenager anymore lmao

Anthony Fantano music

eh i think they were kinda aimless after 2 and lost a lot of the "edge" of the sound design in 1 n 2 n after 2 they became "reddit-core" (i think meow the jewles legit did this when it was originally a joke and a audience support goal but brought in the "lol randfom funny" crowd)

i will always respect them tho & they were impactful and popular in the underground world with 1 n 2 so i always will always admire too what it meant back then

This was always my fav RTJ & its mostly cuz Gangsta Boo made it actually enjoyable lol

Yup the first 2 definitely were more impactful overall but 3/4 were my personal favs. They're all pretty similar overall though. I don't think there was ever an "edge" to lose. El-P had shifted his production technique after 2007 to more 'epic', bass heavy production. Cold Vein and FanDam his best work on the boards

I like that the beats are unique and love el as a producer historically but how do you go from creating spaced out schizo alien beats (a top 5 beat to me)

To literal music for cod edits