Not surprising. Movie looks ok and I say this as someone who loves the first. Also WB did not give a f*** about promoting this movie at all

I hope Gunn gives Sandburg another shot in the DCU

FLOOOPPPPAAAAAARUUUUSSKKKIIIIII

what buddy say from independence day? "ive been sayin it....ive been sayin it for ten dang years, aint i been sayin it??""

Future HBO max classic

Why does it matter anymore if this flops lmao

why did it ever matter if any of the dc movies flopped or not?

why did people harp on it and compare it to the success of marvel?

why did zachery levi talk s*** about something he didnt know about?

why did the praise of the first movie result in such a s*** turnaround?

all of these have real answers. in order to know about the present it helps to know about the past

Reboot is coming so this is just leftovers

Say if Justice League didn’t flop (not advocating for Joss just pointing out)

We wouldn’t be in reboot territory

DC is rebooting so Shazam can easily go and be recast no problem

This movie might just end up being a fun sequel to a mostly disconnected sub franchise

Ok I only saw the first question when I posted

im cool with a recast.
justice league def was a HUGE MAJOR reason and im glad you said it. you're right.

the issue is (oh no grudge time) that ppl used box office as a giant metric for the success of the dc universe and now everyone has done a complete 180 and is using the way these characters resonate with audiences as the metric now. its hypocritical as hell.

i hope that the ppl who go see this do like it just like they liked the first one. truly. i was one of the ppl who f***ing hated the first one and more so hated the response it got. ("Finally the dc universe is going in the right direction" b.s.) so its SUPER interesting that the ppl who GUSHED about the first one dont really seem to be hyping this one up or, as it seems, purchasing tickets

im seated front row popcorn in hand watching the downfall of WBs reign over the dc product. it is what it is

Got my tickets for opening night Dolby tho

Back to the topic, I do think the negative reception (by the general public who didn’t see the directors cuts) of the other films hurt this one

Yes the predecessor to Shazam was Aquaman, but that really exploded worldwide and that was Aquaman, a pre-established character

Shazam was totally new in a franchise that has had shaky reception (again, amongst the general public).

It did okay for what it was

This one is in a vastly different position. Coming out close to Black Adam, a very closely related character (as much as The Rock doesn’t want that to be the case), the reboot announcement, and WB not marketing this well AT ALL, is going to result in weak box office.

I hope most of the talent involved bounces back and I know most of them will.

It kind of sucks that I already know this won’t do well but it is what it is

sigh.......

youre making wonderful points and youre taking the fun out of the argument

except i will say the public perception of the first one was good if not glowing. it didnt reflect in box office primarily bc it came out RIGHT between captain marvel AND Endgame coming out. reallllllly bad timing and s*** move by WB.

but media and public really dug it. google.com/search?q=shazam+(2019)+reviews+dc+right+direction&oq=shazam+(2019)+reviews+dc+right+direction&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.16563j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Also cuz you had ppl sayin dumb s*** like this

Well...... That sure was a clip.

aren't the comics going to rebrand Shazam as The Captain? (so that he can say his name without changing lmao)

it would make sense to reboot this franchise even more now for the DCU, clean slate with a new name

This editing doesn’t seem real

I sincerely hope this was edited this way for the clip only and it’s not this way in the movie

I think that's just what Mark Waid's gonna call him. The series is still called Shazam, he just wants to refer to him as The Captain in the series and see if it sticks

What Disney Channel movie is this?

yea this doesn’t look good..

this is so generic…

ah okay. hopefully it does stick. changing from captain marvel to shazam to the captain now is interesting.