I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Someone gets offended by something someone in the group said and then everyone just brushes it off and it's supposed to be liberating for that person?

Sounds backwards to me, like I would just assume nobody in the group cares to know why I got hurt by people I think are my friends. I'd be hard pressed to keep calling em friends for long if that was a pattern.

that alpha male s*** crazy

Dude contradicted himself

But if it's a roast session, isn't that thee time to go in your homies? It's impossible for you maybe.

Every single one of my deeply close and personable relationships have been built on mutual understanding of respect. If a roast ever goes too far, we'll stop and ask genuinely why they were so upset by a certain joke, as it usually comes from a place of trauma.

it really f***ing is

you can be casual as s*** and have everything going right for you and give as much handouts and advice and man to man talks they need but they will still think of that alpha male mindset and try to jab you so they can be on top like since when are you supposed to compete like this with your friends? at least just take it as inspiration and work harder instead of taking s*** personal

I just don't think insults, even good-natured ones with boundaries included, are the strongest basis to form a friendship on I guess.

I would rather just not have to insult my closest friends in order to feel closer to them, is that so weird lol?

people are ed fam

Nah, not what I meant but I see how my post can be confusing. My recent response to your post explains what I meant deeper, but real quick:

If you're offended by a joke, it's most likely because it's something you're insecure about. It's the duty of your close friends to acknowledge your upset feeling, possibly apologize, and, if you're willing to speak about it, they should ask and support your deeper issue that led to the insecurity in the first place

Yup, the change of personality thing is a real issue with a lot of guys. I've seen it so many times. People are best friends and then they get into a bigger group, suddenly one of the dudes start to clown his ''best friend'' when the majority of the bigger group starts to do it. Sad tbh

nothing wrong with being competitive

But often if you show that vulnerability and express that it hurt you then it just opens the door for further "jokes" more often than not. That's the real problem here. The inability for men to allow the expression of vulnerability creates this sickening feedback loop where everyone just internalizes their pain and then sends it back out on the next person.

ye exactly

the other day my close homie pulls out his airpods and starts talking to some girls right in front of us, while the others played and started acting out with childish h**** talks for them to hear from their call

i was just sitting doing nothing and instead of calling him out for that blatant disrespect all i did was just started going to the gym more often than i did and better myself

then the next day he comes around and says he’s tired of acting like a f***boy and it’s putting too much on his shoulders

like you dont gotta take s*** personal and make a problem, you just let s*** take its course and focus on yourself and they’ll notice if what they did was wrong

I agree, that's why you shouldn't be building relationships off these interactions.

That's not weird at all. In fact, as long as you're communicative with that preference with your friends, then you're completely normal. My only point is that just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it doesn't work for everyone.

1) Being Aggy as f***, unable to communicate disagreement without being disrespectful. Constantly trying to be offended
2) Mocking/sonning other men to big themselves up. Even chill dudes do this when girls or "high status" men are around.
3) Pocketwatching/PectoralWatching/Dickwatching : constantly comparing their masculinity to other men. ". If you unironically say soyboy the chances of this being you rises by a 1000%

I don't have a problem with traditionally masculine men at all. Although I am socially progressive on here if you met me irl you would think I was a typical dude. However the amount of insecure men out in the world is f***ing ridiculous. I know I can't say this without sounding like a giant f***ing nerd but teenage/young dudes can be some of the wackest people on planet earth.

thinking about women only in a sexualised way.

I see. Let me continue this conversation by asking you a question: how are men directly inhibiting other men from expression of vulnerability?

I can lick my elbow

This is a such a b**** ass nigga thread

By only clowning them when they express it. There's no love or kindness or anything of the sort. It's not always like this of course, but it definitely seems to happen the majority of the time.

Do women not do s***ty thing? Do people in general not do s***ty things? What is this thread lol

Make a woman thread and ask the 6 women on this forum.