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2y

Disgusting post @op

I think you meant British “people”

Skinn Foley

2y

Do genuinely feel for Poland and Czechia though. Neither were fascist, both got utterly f***ed by the Nazis during WWII (and Poland to a drastically lesser but still significant degree also got f***ed by the USSR during World War II), and got caught in the crossfire. I think they should have been allowed to independently charter their own courses even if it meant not becoming socialist if revolutionary conditions weren't ripe yet. I think trying to force socialism puts the system at risk

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The problem with this line of thinking is that it privileges the 45 years of communist rule in understanding these countries over the rest of their histories and even projects a post-communist understanding onto the pre-communist era, for example an entire system and way of life was also overturned - far more dramatically in fact - when communism was imposed and it also causes chaos and poverty, this is how revolutions work in the near term

Also the post is weirdly racist?

Choking

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you cant really say that when communism was imposed and caused the chaos and poverty that was already there even before the communism in these areas. The chaos and poverty is what ended up causing the communist being supported, it’s not like there weren’t any communist supporters at all in these area and communism was interjected by some alien agent. These society were heavily polarized already with organic supporters for the
ideologies that existed there .

Choking

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the relation of the great purge to the military must rest on the case how true were the rumours of a fifth column with the soviets, even the czech were warning the soviet government about Tukhachevsky being a nazi collaborator. The great purge ultimately did absolutely insane amount of damage to the military but you also cant win a total war without trusting the people u work with.

Also lol that the soviets would be wiped out by the Nazi the great purge made the soviets the blackest box of all, the nazis were suprised by soviet industrial capacity and lost at Stalingrad before most of the land-lease even came to play a role, the turning point where even the nazi had to admit in there propaganda there now fighting on the defensive end . The soviets did more for the west for taking forcing the nazi to move there reserves from the western front to the eastern front making it easier for an amphibian assault . The land lease did play an important role in regards to how fast the conflict would end which ultimately means amount of lives not sacrificed to the war which is one of the rare good moments in america history, but at end of the day the soviets did the heavy lifting , but back to the Nazi they were doomed from the start.

mdmadon

2y

better food fashion n sexy accents as a black man you're less likely to get shot by police

brickfuentes

2y

Better food???? HA!!! I'll take my chances getting shot before living some where with subpar cuisine lol

Bint

2y

far worse places to find yourself than the uk, like france

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The problem with this line of thinking is that it privileges the 45 years of communist rule in understanding these countries over the rest of their histories and even projects a post-communist understanding onto the pre-communist era, for example an entire system and way of life was also overturned - far more dramatically in fact - when communism was imposed and it also causes chaos and poverty, this is how revolutions work in the near term

Also the post is weirdly racist?

Bint

2y

no the prettiest eastern euro countries are Estonia, Lithuania and Poland

You need to actually visit the place

dundis

2y

idk, what does one respond?
en tout, i'm sorry that you're getting filtered from enjoying superior sports and cinema mon vieux!

Choking

2y

i mean no disagreement about criticism but i do disagree that much places were overtly better before soviets in eastern europe. The second polish republic was overtly anti-semitic and close to Nazi Germany and even collaborated with them during the 🇨🇿 crisis taking a city with a polish minority. Of course how much better each area differs among area but it isn’t straight these places got much worse. it’s a more complicated picture the ussr was basically an affirmative action empire and the myth of the minorities taking away resources from russian played a role in the dissolution of the ussr, a myth u often still see today within relation to majority nationality to minority nationality

To get to my main point i don’t think you can anyway institute that the relations that the soviets had with their eastern european states let’s say puppet states is anyway comparable to the west and their colonies which unleashed unspeakable amount of death and destruction of social organizations

It’s also not to say that the soviets are perfectly innocent they have done inexcusable things as well like ethnic depositions of national minorities like Kazakhs and Koreans under the excuse of national security but the soviets also provided worker rights, ethnic minorities languages being taught in schools that didn’t exist in Tsarist russia, and minorities were represented in the government

eye contact

2y

The French, Germans, and Polish also deserve hate

Elric

2y

how does this happen every year I feel like I avoid French films and yet

Elric

2y

how does this happen every year I feel like I avoid French films and yet

Bint

2y

far worse places to find yourself than the uk, like france

Prayer Partaker

2y

@Q3D

dundis

2y

france is proof that god exists

god tried to give some of that glory to your country in the form of quebec but the rest of that frozen turd is unfortunately cursed