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  • Dec 1, 2019

    @canon @BaroudeurFlipFlop

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    Listen bucko:

    Not only this is not Aramaic (and trust me, I know how Aramaic looks like, we read in this language every Passover) - most people that knows modern hebrew could read parts from this scroll and understand it.

    Do you know Hebrew or speak it partially?

    It's even written in Wikipedia

    "Most of the texts use Hebrew, with some written in Aramaic (for example the Son of God text; in different regional dialects, including Nabataean), and a few in Greek."

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    Cool and why is that sir?

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    SadCat

    @canon @BaroudeurFlipFlop

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    Listen bucko:

    Not only this is not Aramaic (and trust me, I know how Aramaic looks like, we read in this language every Passover) - most people that knows modern hebrew could read parts from this scroll and understand it.

    Do you know Hebrew or speak it partially?

    It's even written in Wikipedia

    "Most of the texts use Hebrew, with some written in Aramaic (for example the Son of God text; in different regional dialects, including Nabataean), and a few in Greek."

    Cool thing to keep going here, that's definitely what I thought, you studied ancient languages or something ? Im so fascinated by that kind of thing tbh

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    Why would a nation all of a sudden speak Greek and Aramaic?

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    canon

    Cool and why is that sir?

    I wrote you this really long comment and found out the thread got locked and it broke my heart so this is a compensation

    That's it

  • Dec 1, 2019
    SadCat

    I wrote you this really long comment and found out the thread got locked and it broke my heart so this is a compensation

    That's it

    Dude that happens so often I feel for ya.
    Learned to type in a note app and then post smh

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    canon

    Why would a nation all of a sudden speak Greek and Aramaic?

    It's not all of a sudden, the greek was a major empire back then. The new testament was written entirely in greek.

  • Dec 1, 2019
    canon

    Why would a nation all of a sudden speak Greek and Aramaic?

    I mean at the time not everybody could write and sometimes the people that wrote didnt even speak the same language as most folks in their country

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    But really tho why was the thread locked ? Weird tbh

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    FlipFlop

    Cool thing to keep going here, that's definitely what I thought, you studied ancient languages or something ? Im so fascinated by that kind of thing tbh

    No, but in Israel a part of your high school classes is bible studies, so you kinda get to know biblical Hebrew and biblical chronology

    And Aramaic is something Jews are familier with from different kinds of prayers (again, for example, passover)

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    SadCat

    No, but in Israel a part of your high school classes is bible studies, so you kinda get to know biblical Hebrew and biblical chronology

    And Aramaic is something Jews are familier with from different kinds of prayers (again, for example, passover)

    Oh ok you from Israel makes sense, whats a passover I never saw the word before ?

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    FlipFlop

    Oh ok you from Israel makes sense, whats a passover I never saw the word before ?

    A holiday Jews celebrate for escaping from slavery in Egypt and becoming free men

    I swear every Jewish holiday is about how we either escaped from something or conquered it smh

  • Dec 1, 2019
    SadCat

    A holiday Jews celebrate for escaping from slavery in Egypt and becoming free men

    I swear every Jewish holiday is about how we either escaped from something or conquered it smh

    At least it makes you discover historical facts thats pretty cool

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    SadCat

    It's not all of a sudden, the greek was a major empire back then. The new testament was written entirely in greek.

    How did the Greek language implement itself into Hebrew culture?

  • Dec 1, 2019
    SadCat

    It's not all of a sudden, the greek was a major empire back then. The new testament was written entirely in greek.

    How did the Greek language implement itself into Hebrew culture?

    edit meaning when in the Bible / history did this take place?

  • Dec 1, 2019
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    canon

    How did the Greek language implement itself into Hebrew culture?

    Ancient Roman empire were considered the "successor" of Greek culture. They conquered that land and since then studied it's literature, mythology and language. Simply admired the cultural values of Greek.

    So even before the Romans took over the Israeli kingdom, Greek language was used as a way of communicating with the Roman neighbors.

    Fun fact: a lot of Israeli kings (and one queen) chose to partially abandon some of the Jewish tradition and started to associate themselves with Greek culture. Those Jews are called Helenists.

  • Dec 1, 2019
    SadCat

    Ancient Roman empire were considered the "successor" of Greek culture. They conquered that land and since then studied it's literature, mythology and language. Simply admired the cultural values of Greek.

    So even before the Romans took over the Israeli kingdom, Greek language was used as a way of communicating with the Roman neighbors.

    Fun fact: a lot of Israeli kings (and one queen) chose to partially abandon some of the Jewish tradition and started to associate themselves with Greek culture. Those Jews are called Helenists.

    Yes they were considered Hellenist. This is why Paul said ā€œthereā€™s no difference between Jew nor Greekā€
    In 2 Maccabees 6 it states that the Jews were forced to convert to the Greek gentile lifestyle.
    This explains why and how the Greek language became the regular in the New Testament.

  • Dec 1, 2019

    not denying the validity of what you're saying. I'm just saying this is story is a linear biography and not non-linear similar to pulp fiction.

    there's a full timeline that isn't being told.

    Abrahamic writings - Egyptian captivity - Official Hebrew, Paleo Hebrew, view the carbon dating, dates of the language etc.

    Babylonian and Persian Captivity. Implementation of Aramiac "square" writing and the removal of Paleo Hebrew. Implemation of the modern style.

    This is what it even states on goofy wikipedia

    The ancient Aramaic alphabet was adapted from the Phoenician alphabet and became a distinct script by the 8th century BC. It was used to write the Aramaic language and had DISPLACED the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet, itself a derivative of the Phoenician alphabet, for the writing of Hebrew. The letters all represent consonants, some of which are also used as matres lectionis to indicate long vowels.