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    WRU

    I read his anti-Kautsky s*** with Ether beat constantly playing in my head

    Marx disses a lot of people too in the footnotes

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    SEGA GOON

    LONG LIVE THE ETERNAL LIGHT OF THE HONORABLE CHAIRMAN GONZALO

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    WRU

    you being able to read Marx in German gotta be like me being able to read Lenin in Russian: an absolute delight

    Lenin's Russian pen is super goated if only yall knew

    English only speakers with another L

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    fun guy

    English only speakers with another L

    Y'all got original COCKSHOTT

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    Cudderwalks

    POV: You're hiding in an air-conditioned Lima apartment with your entire crew as the leader of a jungle guerilla group, enjoying the good times (no cops will find you in the capital city)

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    My mom was somewhere in the crowd when Fidel came to Ethiopia.. crayz

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    Still don't understand why the CIA uploaded Killing Hope to their website they gotta just be trolling tbh

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    SELF DETERMINATION FOR ALL MY ENEMIES
    ETHNIC UNITY FOR ALL MY FRIENDS

    I SUPPORT THE BALKANIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES

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    SEGA GOON

    POV: You're hiding in an air-conditioned Lima apartment with your entire crew as the leader of a jungle guerilla group, enjoying the good times (no cops will find you in the capital city)

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    SEGA GOON

    Lenin is a better writer than Marx definitely. Wish I could understand the fella too

    Idk when Marx rly goes off he rly goes off fr

    Got some incredible bars

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    TOP 5 COMMIE LYRICISTS DEAD OR ALIVE

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    My life since I've stopped paying attention to politics 📈

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    yeah i guess you could say Althusser was a problematic marxist

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    krishna bound

    there's a lot of stuff to dissect here so i guess let me try to break it down as easy as i can.

    firstly, there's no one who really thinks of the "left" as a unified force besides ideologues. The whole idea of unified political forces is more of a colloquialism for referring shorthand to relative standings on issues in common language than it refers to genuine coalitions. The standings of political parties are manifested far more based on context of conflict than they are necessarily more abstract epistemological frameworks - of course, this doesn't detract from the fact that in "reality" on a non-intellectual basis social groups exist which espouse more akin beliefs to each other, but the extrapolated positions of those groups doesn't mean much without a receptacle within the actual sociopolitical process. the obsession over the specifics of unity or coalitions relative to ideological abstracts is a kind of non-starter to any form of real political a***ysis; on a historical basis, it is, sure (i.e. you want to talk about the Sino-Soviet Split), but this is all retroactive, the nuance in position applies just as much as a mutual commonality at the time vs the post-hoc a***ysis of such. This is also why "ideology" (zizek memes aside) is such a joke within more well-read circles, it's not a dismissive point, it's to show the stark division between acting parties within a political process and the divisions which occur between social groups carrying out cultural-political ends disparate from direct political apparatuses. While I understand to a degree you're trying to get to something similar with emphasizing people like Stirner (i assume you're calling attention to the whole like "League of Egoists" type ideas), I think you're confusing detached discourse alongside retroactively applied historical parallels vs the reality of how cultural groups interact within political frameworks.

    Within the thread you mentioned for example, before I get into what the guy is saying, the springboard of using two random idiots flinging s*** at each other is a poor representation of any actual political process. It's an example of a Baudrilliardian illusion of politics, sure, but it's not real "politics". He may as well have used an example from the music sxn of stans arguing about Drake vs Kendrick sales numbers. The people identify as political but the politics are a detachment separate from political process; does this affect how they act in their everyday life? To some degree, yes, of course. For example, I'm sure they're nicer to a trans person than someone who identifies as a "Far right monarchist tradcath" or something, but none of that is "politics" regardless, that's all social processes, it may as well be chalked up to cultural psychosomatic pathologies. Even if these things were to get to the point they interface with lawmakers, it's sill kept within the framework of pre-existing political contexts - that's not actually a systematic apparatus as much as it is a symptom of the reach of the system we already live in. There is where most political nihilism comes in, because people are intimdated so much by the tendrils of the current system that decoupling the illusion of the political process from the systematic apparatus o fthe political process seems so impossible that people resign into sociocultural groups with the flair of the political.

    Breaking down the thread, the guy is trying way too hard to make a mountain out of a mole hill by dissecting faux-political social interactions. While he notes this later on with the whole "marginal strains"/"D&D stats" tweet(s), if that's the case, doesn't it already pre-invalidate the rest of his tweet? If he thinks these are all projections of marginal inordinate ideologies that are just roleplays, why does he place so much disproportionate attention on how they interact with each other? Why even focus on what critiques exist or what dynamic exists? I had a hard time reading the remainder of tweets past that because the point stops being relevant after he acknowledges the LARP of ideology present in modern strains. Anything past that he's committing the same intellectual sin as the people he's criticizing, as he's pulling extrapolations from something that doesn't exist. If you recognize the underlaying meaninglessness of something in a cultural sense, you can't then use it as a springboard for a further sociopolitical criticism (him discussing the ideological crutch of "leftism"). If he wants to talk about "leftism" in a quasi-historical or pathological lens, sure, I guess so, but if you want to first initiate the a***ysis of eroded cultural function, you can't turn around and then criticize that group relative to a group you claim to belong to opposing said group yourself. This isn't even to say that he's wrong about the idea of people using politics as a crutch, or that he's wrong about subcultural function (i.e. people being mall goth), but it's immediatedly invalidated by his inability to project the caveat beyond the scope of the conflict he's found himself clearly on one side of in terms of disposition.

    never post weird s*** kb you'd ruin the semi-parasocial idealized image i have of you as a generally cool person with good takes

  • SEGA GOON

    SELF DETERMINATION FOR ALL MY ENEMIES
    ETHNIC UNITY FOR ALL MY FRIENDS

    I SUPPORT THE BALKANIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES


    one struggle

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    polemic against using "he definitely gets no p****" to misogynists using "you get no p****" dialectical a***ysis

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    Scratchin Mamba

    Idk when Marx rly goes off he rly goes off fr

    Got some incredible bars

    True, but Lenin is very consistent. Marx needed to trim his albums off some filler tracks here and there

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    deadacc

    yeah i guess you could say Althusser was a problematic marxist

    Still lioned

    Loves his wife
    Hates young marx
    Simple as

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    Op what Stalin and mao said and then did would make anyone dismiss them immediately

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    Rioblivion

    Op what Stalin and mao said and then did would make anyone dismiss them immediately

    Ur Lenin gang

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    SEGA GOON

    Ur Lenin gang

    lol I’m socialist on paper is perfect , trash is all instances of execution gang

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    Rioblivion

    lol I’m socialist on paper is perfect , trash is all instances of execution gang

    Ur Cockshott gang

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    deadacc

    polemic against using "he definitely gets no p****" to misogynists using "you get no p****" dialectical a***ysis

    The idea that misogynists "don't get p****" is retärded twitter-esque wishful thinking tbh. Some of the biggest poonhounds out there outright hate women. I know a dude who knows a male model who goes around the world intentionally impregnating women and then fleeing the country lmao

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    SEGA GOON

    Ur Cockshott gang

    lol I’m sure your not in sw Asia or Cuba your dream is a meme and if you felt so true about you wouldn’t even have a voice to get your opinion off, at least not in places you spend your current time

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    Rioblivion

    lol I’m sure your not in sw Asia or Cuba your dream is a meme and if you felt so true about you wouldn’t even have a voice to get your opinion off, at least not in places you spend your current time