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  • Dec 8, 2020
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    a lot of the people on this site are idiot ngl
    genuinely have no hope for humanity

  • Dec 10, 2020
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    Hey I'm looking for a speech by Chairman Gonzalo commemorating Stalingrad and talking about Stalin, it's not written in English. Maybe one of you guys know it?

    @Sinewave

  • Dec 10, 2020
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    Cudderwalks

    Hey I'm looking for a speech by Chairman Gonzalo commemorating Stalingrad and talking about Stalin, it's not written in English. Maybe one of you guys know it?

    @Sinewave

    Hmm I’ve read a lot of Gonzalo but I am having a hard time recalling what that would be. He talks a decent amount about Stalins legacy in his Interview, but I’m sure you’re familiar with that.

    Might be part of one of the documents in here?

    bannedthought.net/Peru/CPP/Collections/CollectedWorksOfTheCommunistPartyOfPeru-V1-1968-1987.pdf

    Edit: oh just saw the not in English part yeah I don’t got a clue haha. Ask one of the Brazilian comrades in Red Fraction tho they will def know, I’m assuming you have a way to get in touch with them?

  • Dec 10, 2020
    Sinewave

    Hmm I’ve read a lot of Gonzalo but I am having a hard time recalling what that would be. He talks a decent amount about Stalins legacy in his Interview, but I’m sure you’re familiar with that.

    Might be part of one of the documents in here?

    http://bannedthought.net/Peru/CPP/Collections/CollectedWorksOfTheCommunistPartyOfPeru-V1-1968-1987.pdf

    Edit: oh just saw the not in English part yeah I don’t got a clue haha. Ask one of the Brazilian comrades in Red Fraction tho they will def know, I’m assuming you have a way to get in touch with them?

    I'll check it out, I'm not exactly sure what it is, I just got some comrades looking for it and i'm trying to help them out

  • Dec 10, 2020
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    what do yall think of Rojava ?

  • Dec 13, 2020

    Best book on Thomas Sankara?

  • Dec 13, 2020
    Faygo

    a lot of the people on this site are idiot ngl
    genuinely have no hope for humanity

    we can help though
    in our own way
    until we find a way 2 come together

    might as well try

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    Faygo

    what do yall think of Rojava ?

    !https://youtu.be/cDnenjIdnnE

    CIA IMO

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    Scratchin Mamba

    So to make matters worse, they had one of the white party council members show up to the meeting like as "zwarte piet", google that s*** if you wanna see how racist this f***ing country is.

    And the """Socialist""" Party said that zwarte piet being racist or not is not a political question

    To all the American stupidpol type lefties who essentially claim that turning a blind eye to racism because identity politics is just a distraction and an obstacle to socialism, you'll just end up like these spineless reactionary social democrats whose most radical proposal is raising taxes by 2% on millionaires.

    I'm decidely on the class first side of communism but it's always unfortunate to see the people who self-label as such but totally reject even the slightest degree of validity concerning identity politics. Class first certainly means class first, full stop — but it doesn't mean identity (or any other potential political perspective that might assume a secondary slot) is null and void forever. It certainly doesn't mean, and never has meant, turning a blind eye to acts of racism, sexism, etc... especially to the point where someone within a party chapter/leftist sect doing something racist for racism's sake is a non-issue.(And as much as I invoking a dead icon...Marx' anti-egalitarian arguments reach the same conclusion.)

    But although I'd never say identity politics is (as in any inherent sense) a distraction from or obstacle in front socialism/toppling capitalism, I'd definitely argue that its contemporary use across pop-culture, commerce, digital communications, and academics — thought that last one gets way more attention than it should for it — are regularly manupulated and used by the people (and organizations/corps) in control of capital, as well as pro-capital cronies, as distractions and obstacles to it. Particularly over the past 10 years, and increasingly so in the latter half of the 2010s. (At least in terms of American social culture, anyway.)

    It's really depressing thinking about the great things Michelle Alexander wrote about back in 2010 — she even goes as far as to argue that identity poltics was used by landowners to validate the separation of black and white workers after collective uprisings, which incentivized the break in solidarity and transformation into chattel slavery — and comparing that to the s*** that's being pushed by the biggest publications in the country today, like White Fragility and the 1619 Project that stands in stark contrast the Alexander's collectivist, anti-capital attitude. (The latter of which is helmed by someone who's promoted by arguably the biggest masthead in corporate print, and who also claims to be an "anti-racist activist" while celebrating Shell Oil sponsoring one of her speaking events while the company is still under international investigation for their involvement with land militias connected to Shell's confiscated oil land slaughtering a group of Nigerian protesters who lived there.)

    And those two, along with others who have also recently published de facto identical books — laden with isolated academic theory being used casually to describe general social in a practical means that intends shame rather than solidify — have gotten cozy high paying corporate positions in the recently adopted diversity corners of HR. Those who have more celebrity to their name/work are offered even higher paying positions as the official diversity ambassador for major household corporations. Those who haven't jumped into the corporate admin role have instead elected to charge exorbitant fees for their guest lectures. (Can't remember who it was but their agent gave prices for their appearance and it was $20,000 for a 45 conversational lecture. I think it might've been Coates but I'm not positive on that.)

    It doesn't take $20K for less than an hour, or a six figure annual salary and corner office, to teach people how to avoid acts of unintended racism — and if there are acts of intentional racism, that's not going to be solved by a condescending academic who makes 6 figures bossing the racist around.

    The celebration of "diverse CEO/executive/Washington political hiring" thats popular on social media publishers is also intolerably absurd. Or when Oprah, literally a .01%er, goes on TV earlier this year and tells a random middle class white woman in her audience that she has more power than her in America because she's white and Oprah's black.

    So while i def agree identity politics is something that shouldn't be outright ignored or antagonized, it certainly seems easily susceptible to being used to distract and promote lower class infighting in the 21st century. I've never heard anyone IRL say literally any thing about American's total and ongoing rape of South and Central American since the 80s. But I've certainly heard all about how we can push Biden left and how Kamala is the best thing in American politics since Obama.

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    Scratchin Mamba

    looks oddly familiar...

  • Dec 14, 2020
    zombie

    CIA IMO

    explain

  • Scratchin Mamba

    true freedom is getting thrown across to a camp on the other side of your country cause your cousin spoke out against stalin

    this is only slightly better than liking hitler

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  • Dec 14, 2020
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    u acting more like David Bozo than bowie fam @TragedyGhaddafi

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    spongebob

    u acting more like David Bozo than bowie fam @TragedyGhaddafi

    I'm sorry I dont like brutal dictators who only attack the nazis when attacked first (and helping them before that). And committing genocides and purges of his own people

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I'm sorry I dont like brutal dictators who only attack the nazis when attacked first (and helping them before that). And committing genocides and purges of his own people

    u right though lmao idk who putting stalin on a pedestal even though a lot of these ppl say great things beforehand, but then have major hypocrisy later on

    That quote from him is great tho, just kinda unfortunate it wasn't fully kept like that

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    spongebob

    u right though lmao idk who putting stalin on a pedestal even though a lot of these ppl say great things beforehand, but then have major hypocrisy later on

    That quote from him is great tho, just kinda unfortunate it wasn't fully kept like that

    I do agree with you on that yes, the quote is great, but the person isnt

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I'm sorry I dont like brutal dictators who only attack the nazis when attacked first (and helping them before that). And committing genocides and purges of his own people

    However I don't measure the potential and destiny of something like socialism only by it's antequated and most troubling examples but by what I think it could be, which is a lot better than what's going on now in places that despise it, imo

  • Dec 14, 2020
    TragedyBerlusconi

    I do agree with you on that yes, the quote is great, but the person isnt

    when i look back at s*** in the ww1 ww2 era and look at all the world powers it really is a gang of evil s***heads abusing power across the board for me.

    Obviously some events tower over others when it comes to death toll but at the core its a lot of the same death causing actions that I think true socialism could counteract, those people that were affected like that in authoritarian regimes really ought to have had a voice and power within true socialism,

    and those same people wouldn't be able to speak up in a capitalist system either without food housing, education, healthcare, otherwise, as well as they could with those things

  • Dec 14, 2020
    TragedyBerlusconi

    I do agree with you on that yes, the quote is great, but the person isnt

    plus a lot of this s*** being argued for is theory/advocating on behalf of what things should be and i don't think most people genuinely think s*** should go the way that it has in the past, but rather something new,

    as well as the fact that most people who give a s*** agree that peoples basic necessities need to be met, which i think is the main point

    I think its foolish to argue in favor of a system in which (not saying u are specifically in this instance) peoples basic necessities aren't met, and there is the greatest wealth inequality within the 'richest country', while opposing basic sentiments of socialism that they should be. it just doesn't make sense at the core of things,

    idk im just ranting though idk what im getting at

  • Dec 14, 2020

    i feel like people between capitalism and socialism/communism let capitalism slide too much while hating on important aspects of socialism that s*** weird