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  • Jan 1, 2021
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    Lmao the top 3 best prepared are some of the countries dealing with it the worst rn

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    after reading a bunch of reddit threads of anarchist and ML just throwing a tantrum at each other i’m tired of just being an online leftist @Sinewave i know ur involved in ur communities leftist groups how did i get involved? Also i guess a question i have for @lilyth_ in my personal opinion North Korea and China are currently revisionist do you have any literature that argues against that point or do you agree? Also i guess one more question for ML and one my biggest questions for ML is how to prevent revisionist from taking power which we saw happened in the soviet union with Khrushchev and Deng in China (which i guess is still debatable among the left), the purges and cultural revolution didn’t work cause the revisionist took power. I really like the idea of the cultural revolution just need to do it with a lot less murder and and make it more controllable.

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    after reading a bunch of reddit threads of anarchist and ML just throwing a tantrum at each other i’m tired of just being an online leftist @Sinewave i know ur involved in ur communities leftist groups how did i get involved? Also i guess a question i have for @lilyth_ in my personal opinion North Korea and China are currently revisionist do you have any literature that argues against that point or do you agree? Also i guess one more question for ML and one my biggest questions for ML is how to prevent revisionist from taking power which we saw happened in the soviet union with Khrushchev and Deng in China (which i guess is still debatable among the left), the purges and cultural revolution didn’t work cause the revisionist took power. I really like the idea of the cultural revolution just need to do it with a lot less murder and and make it more controllable.

    Me and others started our own here. We didn’t have s*** for the left before then. We conducted social investigation, identified what problems the community was having, and took action to try and address them and that’s how we established ourselves. Sorry I know that is not an easy solution, but sometimes you just got go out there and do it when there is nothing else. We’ve been able to develop a serious counter balance to landlord power and help feed our neighborhoods in 4 years time. It just takes time and patience. I’m happy to answer in more detail if you have more specific questions

    As for the rest of your post that is a long answer haha. I have a lot of literature I can provide on why China is revisionist and social-fascist if you are interested.

    As far as preventing that from happening, the answer is Cultural Revolution. The masses have to be unleashed on the Party after it gains power, as the Party inherently generates a new class of petite bourgeois bureaucrats sadly, and this can only be combatted by directly and militantly confronting all backwards social practices in our society after socialism takes power, since the superstructure lags behind the economic base. Again a big topic, but I can provide some resources if you’d like.

    Sorry this is sparse, hanging with a friend rn. But like I said I’m happy to provide resources and more specific answers if you have anything you’d like to learn more about.

    Edit: sorry, I missed your part about you talking about cultural revolution already. Hm yeah I have a lot of thoughts on that but I’m tipsy right now so I’d be in a better position to respond to your concerns at a later time

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    Me and others started our own here. We didn’t have s*** for the left before then. We conducted social investigation, identified what problems the community was having, and took action to try and address them and that’s how we established ourselves. Sorry I know that is not an easy solution, but sometimes you just got go out there and do it when there is nothing else. We’ve been able to develop a serious counter balance to landlord power and help feed our neighborhoods in 4 years time. It just takes time and patience. I’m happy to answer in more detail if you have more specific questions

    As for the rest of your post that is a long answer haha. I have a lot of literature I can provide on why China is revisionist and social-fascist if you are interested.

    As far as preventing that from happening, the answer is Cultural Revolution. The masses have to be unleashed on the Party after it gains power, as the Party inherently generates a new class of petite bourgeois bureaucrats sadly, and this can only be combatted by directly and militantly confronting all backwards social practices in our society after socialism takes power, since the superstructure lags behind the economic base. Again a big topic, but I can provide some resources if you’d like.

    Sorry this is sparse, hanging with a friend rn. But like I said I’m happy to provide resources and more specific answers if you have anything you’d like to learn more about.

    Edit: sorry, I missed your part about you talking about cultural revolution already. Hm yeah I have a lot of thoughts on that but I’m tipsy right now so I’d be in a better position to respond to your concerns at a later time

    man god bless you.

  • Jan 2, 2021
    fiveprestos

    man god bless you.

    Solidarity comrade.

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    Sinewave

    Me and others started our own here. We didn’t have s*** for the left before then. We conducted social investigation, identified what problems the community was having, and took action to try and address them and that’s how we established ourselves. Sorry I know that is not an easy solution, but sometimes you just got go out there and do it when there is nothing else. We’ve been able to develop a serious counter balance to landlord power and help feed our neighborhoods in 4 years time. It just takes time and patience. I’m happy to answer in more detail if you have more specific questions

    As for the rest of your post that is a long answer haha. I have a lot of literature I can provide on why China is revisionist and social-fascist if you are interested.

    As far as preventing that from happening, the answer is Cultural Revolution. The masses have to be unleashed on the Party after it gains power, as the Party inherently generates a new class of petite bourgeois bureaucrats sadly, and this can only be combatted by directly and militantly confronting all backwards social practices in our society after socialism takes power, since the superstructure lags behind the economic base. Again a big topic, but I can provide some resources if you’d like.

    Sorry this is sparse, hanging with a friend rn. But like I said I’m happy to provide resources and more specific answers if you have anything you’d like to learn more about.

    Edit: sorry, I missed your part about you talking about cultural revolution already. Hm yeah I have a lot of thoughts on that but I’m tipsy right now so I’d be in a better position to respond to your concerns at a later time

    would def like some resources on what you talk about in that third paragraph if possible

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    Sinewave

    Me and others started our own here. We didn’t have s*** for the left before then. We conducted social investigation, identified what problems the community was having, and took action to try and address them and that’s how we established ourselves. Sorry I know that is not an easy solution, but sometimes you just got go out there and do it when there is nothing else. We’ve been able to develop a serious counter balance to landlord power and help feed our neighborhoods in 4 years time. It just takes time and patience. I’m happy to answer in more detail if you have more specific questions

    As for the rest of your post that is a long answer haha. I have a lot of literature I can provide on why China is revisionist and social-fascist if you are interested.

    As far as preventing that from happening, the answer is Cultural Revolution. The masses have to be unleashed on the Party after it gains power, as the Party inherently generates a new class of petite bourgeois bureaucrats sadly, and this can only be combatted by directly and militantly confronting all backwards social practices in our society after socialism takes power, since the superstructure lags behind the economic base. Again a big topic, but I can provide some resources if you’d like.

    Sorry this is sparse, hanging with a friend rn. But like I said I’m happy to provide resources and more specific answers if you have anything you’d like to learn more about.

    Edit: sorry, I missed your part about you talking about cultural revolution already. Hm yeah I have a lot of thoughts on that but I’m tipsy right now so I’d be in a better position to respond to your concerns at a later time

    oh no worries enjoy ur time with ur friend, i agree with you on the china part since this is a left unity place just wanted to see the opinion of dengist if there is any here. Mao is on my reading list after i’m done with a couple of Lenin books, got interested in Mao recently cuz of the Naxalites after i went through digging on the history of communism in my home country. IDK any other leftist irl which i guess would make it tough i did help a Rogen Bro get more friendly towards socialism but i won’t call him a socialist. I live near Toronto it shouldn’t be too hard to find a leftist organization just wish it was in the city i live in the closest i found was a progressive make weed legal group on my campus a few years back.

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    Womanpuncher69

    oh no worries enjoy ur time with ur friend, i agree with you on the china part since this is a left unity place just wanted to see the opinion of dengist if there is any here. Mao is on my reading list after i’m done with a couple of Lenin books, got interested in Mao recently cuz of the Naxalites after i went through digging on the history of communism in my home country. IDK any other leftist irl which i guess would make it tough i did help a Rogen Bro get more friendly towards socialism but i won’t call him a socialist. I live near Toronto it shouldn’t be too hard to find a leftist organization just wish it was in the city i live in the closest i found was a progressive make weed legal group on my campus a few years back.

    Oh you’re near Toronto? S*** comrade hit up the PCR-RCP, they are an excellent Maoist party and I have several friends in it. If you need, I can help put you in touch

    (Not the same as the horrible American RCP at all lmao, two completely diff things. PCR-RCP is really great and has done a ton of excellent work, and they’re highly involved in the International Communist Movement)

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    would def like some resources on what you talk about in that third paragraph if possible

    Tag me tomorrow morning and I got you while I’m doing my study hours

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    mobile.twitter.com/KweenInYeIIow/status/1345142153064964097

    Is sad that as socialists we sometimes get lumped in with these clowns

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/KweenInYeIIow/status/1345142153064964097

    Is sad that as socialists we sometimes get lumped in with these clowns

    Why is this whole force the vote thing making all american socdem youtubers fight eachother im not rly following it

  • Jan 2, 2021
    Scratchin Mamba

    Why is this whole force the vote thing making all american socdem youtubers fight eachother im not rly following it

    as far as i know, a good amount of people with large followings (jimmy dore, brie joy mainly) want to force house progressives to withhold their vote for pelosi as speaker in order to force a floor vote on medicare for all. they want to do this because they think it will force democrats hands and show the american people who is and isn't for M4A. that's a questionable line of thinking in its own right (they could just easily vote for it knowing itll never go to the senate, or not vote for it, and explain how theyre still for universal health care just not single payer). So basically, brie joy and dore have been making what amount to bad faith attacks on anyone who disagrees with them, while claiming what they are doing is real organizing work lol.

    i think its a big grift because if you look at the slack channel, a lot of it is just saying how people need to follow dore and joy's leads (so this leads to more followers for them, with no actionable plan to get M4A lol). maybe they are sincere, but the fact they are centering themselves for it is very questionable.

    and then other socdems disagree because they see this as a very internet thing removed from the actual movement.

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    @fiveprestos Where are you from?

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    Cudderwalks

    @fiveprestos Where are you from?

    nyc

  • Jan 2, 2021
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    fiveprestos

    nyc

    Hmm there’s a lot of orgs in New York, are you looking for something specific?

  • Jan 2, 2021
    Cudderwalks

    Hmm there’s a lot of orgs in New York, are you looking for something specific?

    I'm new to volunteering entirely but its at the top of my goals for this year. I've yet to do the adequate research on where to join and take action but education reform is something I can relate to and something I'd want to be a part of. If you're a part of any org, or can help guide me towards any sort of proper directory, that would be much appreciated.

  • Jan 3, 2021
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    Sinewave

    Oh you’re near Toronto? S*** comrade hit up the PCR-RCP, they are an excellent Maoist party and I have several friends in it. If you need, I can help put you in touch

    (Not the same as the horrible American RCP at all lmao, two completely diff things. PCR-RCP is really great and has done a ton of excellent work, and they’re highly involved in the International Communist Movement)

    hey just finished reading their programme, im interested in joining, you know how I can get in touch?

  • Jan 3, 2021
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    Womanpuncher69

    hey just finished reading their programme, im interested in joining, you know how I can get in touch?

    Let me talk to some people and get back to you. You got a Twitter?

  • Jan 3, 2021
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    Sinewave

    Let me talk to some people and get back to you. You got a Twitter?

    dont really use it at all, more active on IG

  • Jan 3, 2021
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    Womanpuncher69

    dont really use it at all, more active on IG

    DM me your twitter and so I have something to give people besides a KTT account lol. Ion use IG

  • Jan 3, 2021
    Sinewave

    DM me your twitter and so I have something to give people besides a KTT account lol. Ion use IG

    lmao aii follow back so I can dm ya

  • Jan 3, 2021
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    Sinewave

    DM me your twitter and so I have something to give people besides a KTT account lol. Ion use IG

    aii I dmed my twitter

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    Womanpuncher69

    aii I dmed my twitter

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