I disagree with the idea that there was some entirely arbitrary agenda to keep such conditions in place
it wasnt arbitrary. a suppressed people dont rise up. talking about Czechs rn but Ukranians in the early 30s got the same treatment but worse.
I'm not so much interested in endless political theory debates as I am what these guys actually did
Then you're reducing yourself to complete ignorance. Because what you will come to know if you study history enough is that the realities of history are not a shared truth
Ok well the Brits had really good spies and so knew exactly what would happen to them and their people of the communists took over. I would be probably take a Night Of the Long Knives over a Great Purge and Holodmor as well (especially not being able to predict the Holocaust)
Typical anticommunist that finds a thousand ways to say they sympathize with Nazis over communists
Ok well the Brits had really good spies and so knew exactly what would happen to them and their people of the communists took over. I would be probably take a Night Of the Long Knives over a Great Purge and Holodmor as well (especially not being able to predict the Holocaust)
Bro would take a genocide over a political purge or a famine
The anti communist mind
bro accused the USSR of slave labor.
They pull out all the stops when their proven wrong
Then you're reducing yourself to complete ignorance. Because what you will come to know if you study history enough is that the realities of history are not a shared truth
which is why im still talking to y'all despite all the insults
I find political leaders often say one thing and do another so just reading theory won't be that illuminating. Like if the CC followed the Manifesto to a t then how do you explain 1937. and when you take a close look at the history of defectors, they always did it because of the "hypocrisy and corruption" they were seeing, but then realize its just as bad one the other side once they defect. for both sides.
interesting
how many of these people volunteered and how many were shipped from a totally different region against their will? did they political prisoners and their families get paid for the work as well?
slaves dont receive wages regardless and the amount of prisoners or dekulakized ending up and registered in whichever part of the country is hard to determine because populations were under constant move everywhere across the country due to industrialization and collectivization efforts
prisoners would receive jobs and wages equal to other workers, at least I dont recall any information to the contrary as most prison workers would often turn out to be specialists employed at higher positions than for example peasants who arrived from the countryside
as far as willingness there was a minority of high-skilled professionals assigned to various locations (including Magnitogorsk) 'against their will' in the same sense your employer might ask you to relocate permanently for your work purposes. another part of that minority were deportations and prison labor, though I dont have the exact figures on each particular location; most would end up in Central Asia see modern Kazakhstan with its 80% of population being Russians and not Kazakhs. the vast majority of people would arrive on their own and subsequently leave on their own which would often result in labor shortages regular throughout the period
Bro would take a genocide over a political purge or a famine
The anti communist mind
Long Knives wasnt genocide
why you ignoring where I said they couldn't have predicted the holocaust at that point
which is why im still talking to y'all despite all the insults
I find political leaders often say one thing and do another so just reading theory won't be that illuminating. Like if the CC followed the Manifesto to a t then how do you explain 1937. and when you take a close look at the history of defectors, they always did it because of the "hypocrisy and corruption" they were seeing, but then realize its just as bad one the other side once they defect. for both sides.
If you wanted to learn about the motivations of communist leaders you could at the very least take an hour to listen to some rudimentary communist literature. You're being willfully ignorant, not just ignorant
In regards to the great purges, I simply defer to the ethos of Albert Einstein

he wasnt there though
If you wanted to learn about the motivations of communist leaders you could at the very least take an hour to listen to some rudimentary communist literature. You're being willfully ignorant, not just ignorant
ok give me some communist literature then
and ive already been talking about Lakoba and his motivations so
I already told y'all ive seen every fkn soviet film of the 20s and 30s because im interested. not sure how thats enough to educate the masses of the ussr but not me.
Also the CIA itself admitted stalin wasn't a dictator
yeah the rest of the CC and politburo was as bloodthirsty as he was its true. maybe they were just trying to impress him by doubling their arrest/execution quotas though.
ok give me some communist literature then
and ive already been talking about Lakoba and his motivations so
I already told y'all ive seen every fkn soviet film of the 20s and 30s because im interested. not sure how thats enough to educate the masses of the ussr but not me.
This is a good starting point because the literature will probably have a lot of buzzwords you're not familiar with. It's stalin explaining Marxism Leninism

This is a good starting point because the literature will probably have a lot of buzzwords you're not familiar with. It's stalin explaining Marxism Leninism
!https://youtu.be/xSb5OH9b2lE?si=-5ItAmHGN_o7nNBcim familiar with the buzzwords
dont tell me to read literature then give me a fkn YouTube video
im familiar with the buzzwords
dont tell me to read literature then give me a fkn YouTube video
Then read the interview
Neither were you
my data is more accurate than what he was getting in America in the 30s
It’s a f***ing audiobook lol
never listened to an audiobook in my life because I like to actually read
my data is more accurate than what he was getting in America in the 30s
Entirely disagree
To be present in the times and along the active dynamics of the matter is far more informative than the retrospect imo