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  • Feb 17, 2024
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    snowboyrari

    if you can get sanctioned then how is it not imperialism

    you seem to have a pretty narrow definition of what imperialism is, which is an international system which is enforced at different levels by the entire capitalist world, with the comprador capitalist class within the nation-state being the vanguard of carrying it out

    What do you think imperialism is?

  • Feb 17, 2024
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    Lein

    What do you think imperialism is?

    you just quoted the definition I gave. but yes NGOs are an instrument of imperialism, communists have been arguing this since the 1980s and the rise of USAID, the World Bank, and the IMF.

  • Feb 17, 2024
    snowboyrari

    you just quoted the definition I gave. but yes NGOs are an instrument of imperialism, communists have been arguing this since the 1980s and the rise of USAID, the World Bank, and the IMF.

    They can be, not every NGO is by definition a tool of imperialism. A non-profit boosting literacy in Malawi is very different than one lobbying to decrease domestic farm subsidies.

  • Feb 17, 2024
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    You can theoretically be sanctioned for any number of things BTW. The EU's work with Frontex could send a lot of people to the Hague but I wouldn't say the enshrinement of uuuuh refugee rights in international law is some imperialist ploy.

  • Feb 18, 2024
    snowboyrari

    Homonationalism is unfortunately a real thing. that it has led to bigoted stances within the NEFF is unfortunate but acting as if their position came out of nowhere is just being obtuse.

    This is what I mean by struggling within the party to correct rightism, this is much more worth your time than pointless "mutual aid" work which will only lead to burnout.

  • Feb 19, 2024

    One of my professors was going on and on about communist repression in China so I was pleasantly surprised when they used the word genocide to describe what Israel is doing in Gaza. So accustomed to these white supremacist part-time liberals I forgot there are people who earnestly believe the whole "universal liberal values" thing.

  • Feb 19, 2024
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    snowboyrari

    Of course it's hard. But that just means its worth doing.

    Talk to young people in the NEFF, discuss the issue of queer people and how they benefit (and benefit from) the socialist revolution. Use examples from history and modern times. Talk about what's happening in South Africa, or in the Phillipines. More than likely, they'll understand where you're coming from.

    On a similar note, how do you tackle this on loved ones? People you deeply care for who have very reactionary politics. I’m struggling with someone I care about and it seems I can’t get through to them and I hate to let go of them eventually cause they mean too much to me

  • Feb 19, 2024
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    GoldLink

    On a similar note, how do you tackle this on loved ones? People you deeply care for who have very reactionary politics. I’m struggling with someone I care about and it seems I can’t get through to them and I hate to let go of them eventually cause they mean too much to me

    my experience with multiple instances of that -- its over, just hang it up and enjoy the good aspects of your relationship. unless you live with that person in which case idk how much you'll be able to withstand. very few people in my life have politics that I can even mostly agree with, just gotta thug it out

  • Feb 19, 2024
    GoldLink

    On a similar note, how do you tackle this on loved ones? People you deeply care for who have very reactionary politics. I’m struggling with someone I care about and it seems I can’t get through to them and I hate to let go of them eventually cause they mean too much to me

    Why do you want to let go of them

  • Feb 19, 2024
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    I have a friend who gets his politics from rogan type podcasts and besides telling him hes stupid for also blaming hamas for Israel's genocide I never seriously engage with any of his opinions. "trans women are just men who play dress-up" hm could be. Move on. It doesn't matter.

    People don't need to agree with you on everything. Communism isn't about everyone agreeing with your opinions about gender and sex. If it's not just about opinions and they start directly insulting people you are close with you have to check them. No one respects someone who let's you insult his friends.

    I think it's sad that lgbtq people are being used as Canon fodder for capitalists. People just see the capitalists who exploit them waving rainbow flags. Then it's just comfortable talking s*** about the weirdos.

    @Barcelona

  • Feb 19, 2024
    Plight

    I have a friend who gets his politics from rogan type podcasts and besides telling him hes stupid for also blaming hamas for Israel's genocide I never seriously engage with any of his opinions. "trans women are just men who play dress-up" hm could be. Move on. It doesn't matter.

    People don't need to agree with you on everything. Communism isn't about everyone agreeing with your opinions about gender and sex. If it's not just about opinions and they start directly insulting people you are close with you have to check them. No one respects someone who let's you insult his friends.

    I think it's sad that lgbtq people are being used as Canon fodder for capitalists. People just see the capitalists who exploit them waving rainbow flags. Then it's just comfortable talking s*** about the weirdos.

    @Barcelona

    I somewhat disagree with this cause I truly believe that your politics and what you value says a lot about me too. For instance, if I have a friend who has shaky opinions on rape culture and what not it also somewhat means that I do too because I'm willing to excuse him shakiness. The minute we start debating on whether certain people have the right to exist that's crazyyyy I'm sorry but how can I have you around as a friend/family member?

    I think what I'm trying to say is some things should never be debated on and if that's the case then that's definitely a cause for concern

  • Feb 19, 2024
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    WRU

    my experience with multiple instances of that -- its over, just hang it up and enjoy the good aspects of your relationship. unless you live with that person in which case idk how much you'll be able to withstand. very few people in my life have politics that I can even mostly agree with, just gotta thug it out

    I've accepted that with some people like my parents etc. but some relationships I feel have so much potential for love and growth but are hindered because of so-and-so's problematic politics.

    I can't share some details about my own personal life (like the fact I'm bisexual) because they have very negative views on the LGTBQ+ community.

  • Feb 19, 2024
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    GoldLink

    I've accepted that with some people like my parents etc. but some relationships I feel have so much potential for love and growth but are hindered because of so-and-so's problematic politics.

    I can't share some details about my own personal life (like the fact I'm bisexual) because they have very negative views on the LGTBQ+ community.

    Maybe the gays itt can chime in but ironically I think you are a weirdo for wanting to be friends with people who see you as subhuman like tf are you doing or what's happening in your head to think "there's great potential for love"

  • Feb 19, 2024
    Plight

    Maybe the gays itt can chime in but ironically I think you are a weirdo for wanting to be friends with people who see you as subhuman like tf are you doing or what's happening in your head to think "there's great potential for love"

    Yea, it was never really some personal differences like favourite drinks or w/e but more about peoples lives and s***. Like, how can I forgive something like that? it's put a big hole in our relationship because we'd argue about it very often and I can almost no longer tolerate her behaviour. I've even told her that I see her being completely removed from my life in the near future and it scares me. Am I wrong for wanting better for the BOTH of us? this hurts so much cause it feels like I'm being unreasonable. She often times tells me to just ignore the poltiics and "be happy" and its like ??? I haven't come out to her precisely because of this too

  • Feb 19, 2024
    GoldLink

    On a similar note, how do you tackle this on loved ones? People you deeply care for who have very reactionary politics. I’m struggling with someone I care about and it seems I can’t get through to them and I hate to let go of them eventually cause they mean too much to me

    you do it by making them aware of their class position and how that informs their backward ideology. but beyond that their's nothing else you can do, its not always guaranteed to work and you can't "debate" reactionary views out of people. its actually fine to keep those people at a distance if you can't find the common ground, you dont have to be close with people just because they're related to you.

  • Feb 19, 2024
    Lein

    You can theoretically be sanctioned for any number of things BTW. The EU's work with Frontex could send a lot of people to the Hague but I wouldn't say the enshrinement of uuuuh refugee rights in international law is some imperialist ploy.

    A lot of those organizations who on paper do "good things" are in bed with the same organizations creating those problems or others. The devil is in the details a lot of times tho and u wont find out unless you start working there or some investigative journalist went crayz on em

    An NGO doesn't have to be a NED type of org in order for it to be complicit in injustice

  • Feb 20, 2024
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    be putin

    convince American conservatives you’re some ultra based conservative for taking photo shoots on horses and cracking down on le gays.

    invite one of the most prominent western media journalists on obviously curated state media

    Conservative think it’s going to be some based anti-woke video

    Embarrass said journalists live, call him a failed CIA spook, openly admits China is better than the US, Western Europe is financially beholden to Us, admits he prefers Biden to Trump

    Liberals seethe that someone like Rachel Maddow couldn’t have gotten this interview, complain about RussiaGate or Putin working for Trump

    Conservatives openly regurgitate Russian chauvinist propaganda while still thinking Trump possesses enough political capital to end the war

    SMO support stronger than ever

    Ukraine struggling to find a way out besides negotiating which was flamed by the US

    Is this the peak Western bourgeois democracy?

    Putin successfully outmaneuvered a senile Dixiecrat and a second rate NY property tycoon and is shown as more competent than both

  • Feb 20, 2024
    teku izing
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    be putin

    convince American conservatives you’re some ultra based conservative for taking photo shoots on horses and cracking down on le gays.

    invite one of the most prominent western media journalists on obviously curated state media

    Conservative think it’s going to be some based anti-woke video

    Embarrass said journalists live, call him a failed CIA spook, openly admits China is better than the US, Western Europe is financially beholden to Us, admits he prefers Biden to Trump

    Liberals seethe that someone like Rachel Maddow couldn’t have gotten this interview, complain about RussiaGate or Putin working for Trump

    Conservatives openly regurgitate Russian chauvinist propaganda while still thinking Trump possesses enough political capital to end the war

    SMO support stronger than ever

    Ukraine struggling to find a way out besides negotiating which was flamed by the US

    Is this the peak Western bourgeois democracy?

    Putin successfully outmaneuvered a senile Dixiecrat and a second rate NY property tycoon and is shown as more competent than both

    idk if consciously or not but he just shows what liberal democracy is good for: nothing

  • Feb 20, 2024
    teku izing

    be putin

    convince American conservatives you’re some ultra based conservative for taking photo shoots on horses and cracking down on le gays.

    invite one of the most prominent western media journalists on obviously curated state media

    Conservative think it’s going to be some based anti-woke video

    Embarrass said journalists live, call him a failed CIA spook, openly admits China is better than the US, Western Europe is financially beholden to Us, admits he prefers Biden to Trump

    Liberals seethe that someone like Rachel Maddow couldn’t have gotten this interview, complain about RussiaGate or Putin working for Trump

    Conservatives openly regurgitate Russian chauvinist propaganda while still thinking Trump possesses enough political capital to end the war

    SMO support stronger than ever

    Ukraine struggling to find a way out besides negotiating which was flamed by the US

    Is this the peak Western bourgeois democracy?

    Putin successfully outmaneuvered a senile Dixiecrat and a second rate NY property tycoon and is shown as more competent than both

    Bruh... we must've watched a different interview

  • Feb 20, 2024

    The main message to the west that I got from Putin was not that confrontational. More like "look, America is not the dominant force it used to be. Its military and economic dominance is challenged by us and China. Sooner or later you will have to accept the end of unipolarity whether you like it or not, so why not just negotiate with us?"

    It doesn't fit with the clash of civilizations s*** that liberals and Z-heads run with.

  • Feb 21, 2024
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    kill all YIMBYs

    spineless libs trying to cosplay as progressives

  • Feb 22, 2024
    fun guy

    kill all YIMBYs

    spineless libs trying to cosplay as progressives

    YIMBYs and NIMBYs are really the same sort of s***ty people when you think about it

  • Feb 23, 2024
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    fun guy

    kill all YIMBYs

    spineless libs trying to cosplay as progressives

    Never heard of YIMBYs just NIMBYs

  • Feb 23, 2024
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    MrMudManMood

    Never heard of YIMBYs just NIMBYs

    They go to the opposite extreme and believe if you give a carte blanche to developers they will fix the housing crisis

  • Feb 23, 2024
    Lein

    They go to the opposite extreme and believe if you give a carte blanche to developers they will fix the housing crisis

    aLl DeVeLoPmEnT iS gOoD dEvElOpMeNt