This Russian girl I knew who now lives in Romania ‘motivates’ people to vote against the guy because they’ll take kfc and foreign brands from people if he’s elected

Or

Social media bot companies usually have a hard time gaming elections but when the client is a fascist in romania it’s relatively easy

on the other hand how many bots do u need to get a fascist in Romania elected

The bot that shows you random news on android phones

I recently started attending meetings with the party for socialism and liberation.

I'm curious as to why the communists don't have more mixer type events? I understand everyone needs to have the education but the general public is uninterested in reading theory. Why not try and make it cool?

what if I told you that romanians are real people with legitimate motivations and don't want to be the front line infantry in a future world war for either the american or european imperialists

nobody cares if its cool or not, you've invented a fake problem. theory isn't really for "the general public" anyway who get involved through the party's mass organizations, it only serves a purpose for cadre.

to answer the question though: communist parties are organizations for professional revolutionaries in the pursuit of revolution, they're not meant to be social clubs for young people to hook up with each other and basically every organization in the US has some massive sexual assault scandal attached to their name. the psl is not the former thing at all mind you but I'm sure they'd like to no longer be thought of as the latter thing.

They can manifest that in the redo election without the illegal fundings

I think people do care how it's perceived. The vibe of my current branch feels like a church and the events are all very high commitment as far as time goes. Which I've seen first hand doing outreach is very off putting to people who otherwise might be interested.

I'm not saying that it needs to be a social club, but I think it needs to be more fun. Because socializing leads to a stronger community.

You are free to hang out with folks outside of the meeting hours I guess

I'm not talking about for me, I'm already participating and have no intention of leaving.

I mean for the outsiders that we're trying to reach, what's the harm in throwing a short coffee social kind of thing that isn't asking a lot of the people and passing out a few pieces of literature? And why is the organization strictly cadres when we already know most people will not dedicate that time or effort?

I just had a outreach planning session yesterday and they ended up settling on going door to door like Jehovah's witnesses. I just can't see that being effective in 2024 where people don't even want food delivery drivers knocking on their doors.

PSL does the pathetic "outreach" that it does because its a party run by a bunch of trotskyist fogies who are mostly concerned with maintaining internal party discipline. "organizing" is something that happens when the party integrates with mass movements and this is typically how communist parties in the past incorporated specific people into cadre roles.

the issue here is that the psl doesn't function as a revolutionary communist party and instead cycles impressionable petty bourgeois young people into doing busy work until they burn out. and unlike the right-wing grifters in the DSA their's no chance for any middle class upward mobility as some flop local politician or union bueracrat if you stick around.

I spent most of my life as a member of Uhuru and a central committee member of another large communist party (that i won't mention for security reasons). you dont have to listen to my advice but there's a lot of reasons to keep these organizations at an arms length.

I go door to door every week and that’s how we were able to establish the first tenant unions in my states history

To clarify for @Snowboy based on his post above me, we go door to door at complexes where we either already have established tenant contacts wanting to organize or where we information that leads us to think there’s potential for a collective struggle

What would you suggest someone do instead?

That type of door to door activity is understandable and necessary. What I don't think it's effective is going in random neighborhoods to talk to people at their homes about socialism. I could be wrong, but I find that people are generally incredulous about anyone who comes to their door.

Yeah, you have to have a tangible “ask” for people if you’re going to do that

I will say tho that people are more interested in basic theory than people often assume. An org I was previously involved in advertised a reading group of a CPI (Maoist) text using nothing but flyers posted around our neighborhoods and we had 30 people show up - none of whom we knew previously

Conduct social investigation and identify potential sites of real class struggle.

Start with your neighborhood, make contacts, figure out what the biggest problems the community is facing. Take these back, come up with a proper revolutionary line that can address these things, bring those solutions back to the people and get them organized based around that revolutionary solution.

Here’s some good resources on social investigation and applying the mass line @009x

massline.info/mlms/mlms.htm

coolmaoism.jimdofree.com/against-subjectivism-toward-analytical-decision-making

materialjournal.net/social-investigation-and-class-analysis

I've said it many times in this thread but the best thing you can do right now is get involved with mass movements like the palestinian nationalist movement, create a study group with other anti-revisionists, and get a job in a primarily non-union industry that is ripe for proletarianization. you can still selectively work with existing organizations depending on what you wanna focus on (you'll inevitably run into PSL people doing anything "anti-war" just like you'll inevitably run into SEP people doing anything in organized labor) but all of these things would immediately be more beneficial than becoming a cadre member of a revisionist organization.

the immediate goal is the creation of the anti-revisionist communist party.

There’s an ongoing debate on Twitter right now if between a 40k/yr adjunct at a prestigious university or a 200k/yr contract plumber which is the prole and which is the bourgeois

I don’t know why I do it to myself to read this slop

we need to start educating people about the labour aristocracy

JMPs book Politics In Command did a great dive into this and the implications for our organizing. Our study group read it recently and got a lot out of it

the Marxist-Leninist theory is that the working class needs to enact a revolution over the bourgeoisie (capital owning class) and take power as the ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’, the exact opposite of the ‘dictatorship of the bourgeoisie’ which the world has lived under since the beginning of the neoliberal era in the 1970s

i just explained that to my mom, i felt like after reading state and rev it really connected all the points to the parts of info i’ve been learning and being able to grasp that understanding w anterograde amnesia is extremely awesome!!

Yes, mostly correct, however the “dictatorship of the bourgeois” has been present in any society where the state is dominated by the bourgeois class, it being present in a given society under given conditions at one point does not necessary presuppose capitalism as a mode of production being as widespread globally as in the 1970s.

So for instance England first, but many European countries who went through the process of industrialization, giving the capitalist - the bourgeois class the means to become the dominant class sector over the old feudal ruling classes was the first concrete instances of the “dictatorship of the bourgeois), so the English, French, American revolutions.

Now these are only some early ones

just ordered chomsky’s ‘manufacturing consent’