what are you for @Frankito_Reynolds
Why wouldnt you go with your generational wealth?
read what i said again
Are you saying it's only good for homeless people? I don't get it?
no i'm saying that the quality of life here in the US and most of the west as well as developing countries that mimic the western economic model for the lower class is so horrendously poor that by the balance of things even a country like NK or Afghanistan can provide a better quality of life, and also the quality of life for lower classes is literally all that matters in these types of discussions because the quality of life for the rich is literally the same everywhere to begin with otherwise
Are you under the impression there are absolutely zero homeless people there? Is it good for them? Lol
NK: even literal defectors being paid by libertarian organizations to s*** on NK admit that even with the strapped resources and ideology of the regime that there is virtually no homelessness there. The origin of most stories of homelessness there predate modernity. I am not a NK defender by any means - this is just objectively true though.
Afghanistan: the vast majority of displacement there currently is LITERALLY THE SOLE FAULT OF THE US.
They should do a study and compare the poor people on each side. I dont think what you say is true. The quality of life for the poor aint better in those countries. It is a myth that it is.
Single leader governments arent inherently good or bad but they are higher variance, when power is localized to one person it is certainly easier to create social reforms but also easier to create genocides and famine. I have friends from Oman who love their 1 party monarchy, theyve had responsible leaders which have led to prosperity, and I have friends from Belarus who wont go back because of Lukashenko.
what are you for @Frankito_Reynolds
I'm against western intervention, tribalism and oligarchic governments.
I'm surprised you summed up the courage to show your face again after our last encounter. Im still waiting for your reply to this from few pages ago.
I never said once in my life that people in middle east should give up religion.
I'm against western intervention, tribalism and oligarchic governments.
Sunnis and shias being pinned against each other and muslims buying into it is tribalism. Hizbullah is an oligarchic organization. Muslims need to realize this is their weakness so that they can stop the west exploiting it.
"Also.. i never said that everyone puts a plate out!! I said YOU suppport those who do it! Big difference. And that is why you are crazy. Because you are Hizbullahi.
Grand majority of shias are great people. Like the ones in iraq who protested against khamenei.
You aint one of them. You are a fool."
Hezbollah supports Sunni muslims in Palestine
Ok so how is Turkmenistan doing which by your definition is "authoritarian" compared to "democratic" Armenia?
Turkemenistan is stable and safe, gdp per capita from 05 to now doubled while armenias is flat
Armenia is pretty much depopulated, public instutions are failing, couldn't defend its territory against the azeris and half the people still living only source of income is their kids who immigrated to Los Angeles lol
because instead of having the freedom to be addicted to p***, argue in a digital race war on twitter all day, and buy colorful corn syrup breakfast cereal from your favorite 3 brands (all owned by the same holdings company) and attend your favorite christmas festival (sponsored by bank of america tm) there's media suppression and tightly controlled public speech clearly
also side note but Turkmenistan is one of the funniest examples of someone trying to prove dictatorships are bad because its literally one of the post-USSR states which the west immediately recognized economically and legitimized their regime without question because of oil
I'm against western intervention, tribalism and oligarchic governments.
what are you for
not what are you against
Single leader governments arent inherently good or bad but they are higher variance, when power is localized to one person it is certainly easier to create social reforms but also easier to create genocides and famine. I have friends from Oman who love their 1 party monarchy, theyve had responsible leaders which have led to prosperity, and I have friends from Belarus who wont go back because of Lukashenko.
The fact that have variance is why they must be pursued in lieu of stagnant and sectarian parliamentary democracy.
However, single leader countries must still have centrally democratic processes to check and balance their own power through the direct interest of the people
Hence Leninism
Hezbollah supports Sunni muslims in Palestine
Didn't they support Israeil and Azarbaijan bombin them armenians not long ago?
Being pro palistan is nothing more than a campaigning slogan for the ayatollah.
They should do a study and compare the poor people on each side. I dont think what you say is true. The quality of life for the poor aint better in those countries. It is a myth that it is.
who should do the study? 
NATO & US-sponsored NGOs? 
academics with profit incentive? 
western governments themselves? 
military & intelligene agencies?
Didn't they support Israeil and Azarbaijan bombin them armenians not long ago?
Being pro palistan is nothing more than a campaigning slogan for the ayatollah.
Imagine telling a Palestinian who’s family that was bombed by European colonists that their quest for self-determination was invalid because Iran supports it
And then thinking that statement is coherent
what are you for
not what are you against
Progressive tax brackets. State providing health care, education, accomodation and living expenses. I believe if someone is going hungry they shoud be able to call a toll freee number and have food delivered to their door steps free of charge.
Didn't they support Israeil and Azarbaijan bombin them armenians not long ago?
Being pro palistan is nothing more than a campaigning slogan for the ayatollah.
Armenians are not Muslims if this is what you wanna argue lol
Armenians are not Muslims if this is what you wanna argue lol
Oh so its okay to side with the "enemy" if they are killing non muslims.
We are all the same even genetically speaking we are the same with armenians in the middle east. You are a type of person who champions tribalism. You are an idiot.
Oh so its okay to side with the "enemy" if they are killing non muslims.
We are all the same even genetically speaking we are the same with armenians in the middle east. You are a type of person who champions tribalism. You are an idiot.
Nobody even said that
Oh so its okay to side with the "enemy" if they are killing non muslims.
We are all the same even genetically speaking we are the same with armenians in the middle east. You are a type of person who champions tribalism. You are an idiot.
I did not say that lmao
You really are strawmanning hard
I dont care about neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia fighting over some patch of land
Progressive tax brackets. State providing health care, education, accomodation and living expenses. I believe if someone is going hungry they shoud be able to call a toll freee number and have food delivered to their door steps free of charge.
Milquetoast
Single leader governments arent inherently good or bad but they are higher variance, when power is localized to one person it is certainly easier to create social reforms but also easier to create genocides and famine. I have friends from Oman who love their 1 party monarchy, theyve had responsible leaders which have led to prosperity, and I have friends from Belarus who wont go back because of Lukashenko.
You're right but I think the latter part about "easier to create genocides and famine" is why I brought up earlier in the thread the whole mythology of the "mad king" and the pathologization of power in western religious tradition. Unless installed by a foreign force (which is often common for the most brutal regimes which was my point), dictators really don't have a reason to arbitrarily genocide people...I think besides the above a lot of fear of that also comes from western political culture largely being defined by post-WW2 morality. When dictators rise to power it's usually because they have actual ideological goals which are usually affirmed or denied by the population themselves during said process
I'm surprised you summed up the courage to show your face again after our last encounter. Im still waiting for your reply to this from few pages ago.
I never said once in my life that people in middle east should give up religion.
I'm against western intervention, tribalism and oligarchic governments.
Sunnis and shias being pinned against each other and muslims buying into it is tribalism. Hizbullah is an oligarchic organization. Muslims need to realize this is their weakness so that they can stop the west exploiting it.
"Also.. i never said that everyone puts a plate out!! I said YOU suppport those who do it! Big difference. And that is why you are crazy. Because you are Hizbullahi.
Grand majority of shias are great people. Like the ones in iraq who protested against khamenei.
You aint one of them. You are a fool."
"It's sad that the richest region on the planet is so divided.
Since the discovery of oil no government in the region was selected by the people. All were put in place by western secret agencies orchestrated coupes and fake revolutions.
The reason is simple; middle east is rich beyond measure and is able to rattle the status quo.
They want us divided! That is why people like travis bickle are in charge in the region; to spread this tribal mentality. Pointing finger at different sects and beliefs and call each other infidels. This guy is a quranist, those people are sunnis, the shias are kafir and sufis whirl around too much...
Middle easterners need to put religion on the backburner for a minute and unite for sake of the future of children and the ecosystem, or else in 20 years there will be nothing left."
you said this in the Islam thread. you literally think Muslims should "put religion on the back burner" and you constantly belittle Shia for believing in their faith. You claim to be against western intervention yet idolize everything about the west and their evil system and demonize every nation that actually stands up to the west. Although I agree the MENA region should reconcile you believe the solution is abandoning our faith and being degenerates like the Americans and Europeans.
I did not say that lmao
You really are strawmanning hard
I dont care about neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia fighting over some patch of land
I know you didnt say that. It's all about the implication. You dont have the balls to directly say what you believe here. But the smell of s*** is getting louder by the second
Armenians and Iranians only disputes are caused by Armenia selling itself out to NATO in the last 15 years instead of doing the reasonable thing and strengthening bonds with the two superpowers that are literally right next to it (Russia and Iran)
And look how much help their American allies gave them against the Azeris lol
They should do a study and compare the poor people on each side. I dont think what you say is true. The quality of life for the poor aint better in those countries. It is a myth that it is.
you understand what you're asking for is a comparison of poverty in countries either being completely stripped of and exploited for labor and natural resources and in the countries whose wealth is being generated by that stolen wealth.
the difference is that conditions of poverty in the US and countries that follow the US' economic model continue to have worsening poverty while countries that are challenging this exploitative model are working on improving conditions, or similarly doing the best they can given the conditions. especially considering that countries that choose economic independence from western spheres of influence are maliciously punished to the full capabilities of the west.
Imagine telling a Palestinian who’s family that was bombed by European colonists that their quest for self-determination was invalid because Iran supports it
And then thinking that statement is coherent
a lot of people in Palestine support Hezbollah and Iran. unlike the collaborators in other Arab nations they actually do s*** to help us instead of condemning the Zionist entity and then making deals with them right after.
a lot of people in Palestine support Hezbollah and Iran. unlike the collaborators in other Arab nations they actually do s*** to help us instead of condemning the Zionist entity and then making deals with them right after.
I just need westerners to shed their dogmatic defense of their countries for ONE second and wonder why there’s such a fervent opposition to countries like Venezuela and Iran while Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc are coddled on the daily