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  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    I dont much about the founding fathers but I dont find it surprising for a movement to use figures like them to add legitimacy to them especially with the mythology added to them compared to Canada we dont have anything like that.

    Im not sure the CPUSA stand on them are but im pretty sure they are pro china if u are interested in them but its the CPUSA lol, I briefly mentioned a post earlier about them denouncing Kazakhstan protestors it was a local chapter who denounced them publicly before the main org even had a statement on them which is a complete violation of the centralism part of democratic centralism, and they have beef with a small "ML" YouTuber named Haz rn, who sending his fans to join and they view the founding fathers favourably. The CPUSA are a joke man lol.

    The only orgs I can think of are Maoist orgs that view the founding father unfavourably but then comes again the question of China, which Maoist are not a fan of post Mao China.

    Have u tried seeing what users in r/genzedong organise with seems like most of ur lines are the same as them, maybe that'll help you find an org.

    they're split between PSL/FRSO and CPUSA

    i also have 3-4 irl friends who moved in with the FRSO

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    americana

    they're split between PSL/FRSO and CPUSA

    i also have 3-4 irl friends who moved in with the FRSO

    yeah from a quick google it seems like FRSO is the best bet for you though there is an interesting contradiction there for their support for China and support for the CPP (Communist Party of Philippines (Maoist)) Not trying to discourage u just something I found interesting

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    yeah from a quick google it seems like FRSO is the best bet for you though there is an interesting contradiction there for their support for China and support for the CPP (Communist Party of Philippines (Maoist)) Not trying to discourage u just something I found interesting

    wym? are they not supportive of the CPP?

  • Jan 11, 2022

    i hate marxists man

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    americana

    wym? are they not supportive of the CPP?

    no they are, they are supportive of both thats my point in the contradiction since China arms the Duarte regime with weapons it uses to fight the CPP, and the CPP considers China a revisionist state

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    americana

    they're split between PSL/FRSO and CPUSA

    i also have 3-4 irl friends who moved in with the FRSO

    Why not create your own chapter of the CPUSA?

    You seem to know your s*** enough to run a chapter imo, its worth looking into. I personally don't like the idea of a million different parties/orgs, it seems to make s*** harder for us.

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Sloth

    Why not create your own chapter of the CPUSA?

    You seem to know your s*** enough to run a chapter imo, its worth looking into. I personally don't like the idea of a million different parties/orgs, it seems to make s*** harder for us.

    Creating a chapter on your own is insanely hard especially if ur new to organising

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    no they are, they are supportive of both thats my point in the contradiction since China arms the Duarte regime with weapons it uses to fight the CPP, and the CPP considers China a revisionist state

    thats odd

    i wonder why china supports the duarte and burmese juntas

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    i dont think thats a contradiction big enough to question my own interest in the party tho

  • Jan 11, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    Creating a chapter on your own is insanely hard especially if ur new to organising

    yeah the CPUSA also has a bay area chapter

  • Jan 11, 2022
    americana

    thats odd

    i wonder why china supports the duarte and burmese juntas

    Cause China isn't concerned with exporting revolution and rather have regime that are friendly to their rather they be DOTB or DOTP and to the post under this I never meant it to question ur interest but rather eventually they gotta choose a side between the one.

    Also i recommend FRSO (with my minimal knowledge of them) over the CPUSA anyday lol

    Also dont expect to ever agree 100% with an org line, there lines that I disagree with the one im in but you should carry out democratic centralism and unity of action even if u disagree with whatever it is, and if ur a rep of ur org for any meeting with a person or anything u should push ur org line not ur personal line.

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Watch what you post online

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    space0cadet

    Watch what you post online

    I agree but I do think that the view of the FBI being omnipotent does more harm than it helps, the CIA after it's a***ysis of the French radicals (Deluze, Derrida, Foccult) determined that they were no harm to US interest at all and they carried more power and influence than any of us, until you start to threaten USA interest I doubt they will care about u.

    That is not to say post all the drama and confidential org info online thats unprofessional and idiotic, or take security culture less seriously (that takes time to build up and cant be built up overnight when u actual need it). Though saying ur gonna read state and revolution or conversing about marxism with a friend they wont give a single s***.

  • Jan 11, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    depends on the tendencies some claim that AES never existed and the countries claimed to be socialist weren’t socialist

    others would say all countries that have a communist party leading are AES.

    other would argue some are some aren’t for various of reasons or used to be AES but no longer is.

    Counties like China, North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba. Countries which establish a DOTP (dictatorship of the prolateriant) through revolution are the main examples of AES

    Thank you for the detailed breakdown, I really appreciate it

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    Womanpuncher69

    context?

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    americana

    context?

    idek I just found it on twitter and thought it was funny prob a meeting with kissgner

  • Jan 11, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    idek I just found it on twitter and thought it was funny prob a meeting with kissgner

    nice nice

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    I agree but I do think that the view of the FBI being omnipotent does more harm than it helps, the CIA after it's a***ysis of the French radicals (Deluze, Derrida, Foccult) determined that they were no harm to US interest at all and they carried more power and influence than any of us, until you start to threaten USA interest I doubt they will care about u.

    That is not to say post all the drama and confidential org info online thats unprofessional and idiotic, or take security culture less seriously (that takes time to build up and cant be built up overnight when u actual need it). Though saying ur gonna read state and revolution or conversing about marxism with a friend they wont give a single s***.

    you haven't discouraged me! its just hard to level between the understanding of the external 'mass' part of mass org and how it conflates with my own feelings (that i am confident) in if you get what i mean

    im probably gonna disengage with this party and work with FRSO. they have more going on amongst themselves as well

  • Jan 11, 2022
    americana

    you haven't discouraged me! its just hard to level between the understanding of the external 'mass' part of mass org and how it conflates with my own feelings (that i am confident) in if you get what i mean

    im probably gonna disengage with this party and work with FRSO. they have more going on amongst themselves as well

    a must read for attempting any org work is combat liberalism and not a long read at all
    marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

  • Jan 11, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    I agree but I do think that the view of the FBI being omnipotent does more harm than it helps, the CIA after it's a***ysis of the French radicals (Deluze, Derrida, Foccult) determined that they were no harm to US interest at all and they carried more power and influence than any of us, until you start to threaten USA interest I doubt they will care about u.

    That is not to say post all the drama and confidential org info online thats unprofessional and idiotic, or take security culture less seriously (that takes time to build up and cant be built up overnight when u actual need it). Though saying ur gonna read state and revolution or conversing about marxism with a friend they wont give a single s***.

    You say

    the CIA after it's a***ysis of the French radicals (Deluze, Derrida, Foccult) determined that they were no harm to US interest at all

    When there is an entire CIA dossier about French intellectuals being too communist and how they managed to subvert communism in French intelligentsia in the 1970s by pushing New Left types. Where do you base this opinion from?

    cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86S00588R000300380001-5.pdf

  • Jan 11, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    You say

    the CIA after it's a***ysis of the French radicals (Deluze, Derrida, Foccult) determined that they were no harm to US interest at all

    When there is an entire CIA dossier about French intellectuals being too communist and how they managed to subvert communism in French intelligentsia in the 1970s by pushing New Left types. Where do you base this opinion from?

    https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86S00588R000300380001-5.pdf

    The French intellectuals he mentioned are postmodernists though, not the Marxists that document is about

  • Jan 12, 2022

    news.yahoo.com/department-justice-create-domestic-terrorism-195723171.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
    you'd think they already had an official dpt. for this already.

  • Jan 12, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    You say

    the CIA after it's a***ysis of the French radicals (Deluze, Derrida, Foccult) determined that they were no harm to US interest at all

    When there is an entire CIA dossier about French intellectuals being too communist and how they managed to subvert communism in French intelligentsia in the 1970s by pushing New Left types. Where do you base this opinion from?

    https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86S00588R000300380001-5.pdf

    mainly this one and i was referring to the new left type that pushed anti sovietism and anti marxism my bad if the people i listed weren’t part of them. I think Deluze was gonna right a book on the greatness of Marx before he died right? would have been wrong to list him

    cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86S00588R000300380001-5.pdf

  • Jan 12, 2022

    Free the political prisoners
    zzwave.com/plaboard/posts/3967516.shtml