Jan 30, 2022·2 replies"I suggest we call it an anti US imperialism rally"
The room:
Jan 30, 2022Sloth"I suggest we call it an anti US imperialism rally"
The room:
Jan 30, 2022
Scratchin MambaThe entire room gasps
Jan 30, 2022·1 replySloth"I suggest we call it an anti US imperialism rally"
The room:
This is the exact face they had
“If If say we’re against the US then people will never talk to us again, they might yell at us”
- Jan 30, 2022·1 replyCudderwalks
This is the exact face they had
“If If say we’re against the US then people will never talk to us again, they might yell at us”
your post is like a f***ing comedy sketch bro
- Jan 30, 2022spongebob
your post is like a f***ing comedy sketch bro
I wish it wasn’t i spoke to the membership of this DSA chapter online and they assured me they were “much further left than national DSA.” It was still DSA so I didn’t have high hopes but I expecting to find more things to unite on than not. I never expected that stupidity.
Jan 30, 2022CudderwalksI met with DSA people yesterday it was the worst political experience of my life.
I had to temporarily move cities because of college, there's no communist organizing scene here and I don't know anybody so I figured I'd try and just start attending "progressive" events to see if I could make some connections and push people to the left.
The DSA was holding this meeting to discuss organizing in the future so I went. I get there and the DSA is 8 nerdy white guys who look like they haven't showered in weeks. They start the meeting by trying to build an alliance with some sort of center-left environmental club, the environmental club basically says no. But after they leave the DSA members tout it as the "greatest success they've ever had."
Furthermore, they propose a "Peace in Ukraine rally." I suggest it be called an "Anti-US Imperialism" rally instead and I kid you not the entire room gasps. They all start saying "we can't say that kind of thing," "we can't let people think we're anti-US they'll never listen to us."
Like how little faith in the masses does the DSA have.
Cool story bro. I actually met with DSA people yesterday too and it was the worst political experience of my life.
I had to temporarily move cities because of college, there's no communist organizing scene here and I don't know anybody so I figured I'd try and just start attending "progressive" events to see if I could make some connections and push people to the left.
The DSA was holding this meeting to discuss organizing in the future so I went. I get there and the DSA is 8 nerdy white guys who look like they haven't showered in weeks. They start the meeting by trying to build an alliance with some sort of center-left environmental club, the environmental club basically says no. But after they leave the DSA members tout it as the "greatest success they've ever had."
Furthermore, they propose a "Peace in Ukraine rally." I suggest it be called an "Anti-US Imperialism" rally instead and I kid you not the entire room gasps. They all start saying "we can't say that kind of thing," "we can't let people think we're anti-US they'll never listen to us."
Like how little faith in the masses does the DSA have.
Jan 30, 2022·1 replykrishna boundanything containing the word zionist on this generator is fantastic
"Revolutionary Zionist"
"Liberal Afro-Zionist"
"Radical Anarcho-Zionist"
"Islamic Insurrectionary Pan-Zionist"some other of the best ones i got
"Jewish Ethno-Ba'athist"
"Libertarian Afro-Maoist"
"Islamic Anarcho-Stalinist"Christian Anti-Capitalist
- Jan 30, 2022Astronaut Dad
Christian Anti-Capitalist
- Jan 30, 2022krishna bound
anything containing the word zionist on this generator is fantastic
"Revolutionary Zionist"
"Liberal Afro-Zionist"
"Radical Anarcho-Zionist"
"Islamic Insurrectionary Pan-Zionist"some other of the best ones i got
"Jewish Ethno-Ba'athist"
"Libertarian Afro-Maoist"
"Islamic Anarcho-Stalinist"Islamic Anarcho-Stalinist
Jewish Thatcherite
Bolshevik Ethno-Zionist
Esoteric National Accelerationist
Catholic Revolutionary Luddite - Jan 30, 2022·edited
Esoteric Anti-Capitalist
islamic Post-Maoist
- Jan 30, 2022·2 repliesCudderwalks
I met with DSA people yesterday it was the worst political experience of my life.
I had to temporarily move cities because of college, there's no communist organizing scene here and I don't know anybody so I figured I'd try and just start attending "progressive" events to see if I could make some connections and push people to the left.
The DSA was holding this meeting to discuss organizing in the future so I went. I get there and the DSA is 8 nerdy white guys who look like they haven't showered in weeks. They start the meeting by trying to build an alliance with some sort of center-left environmental club, the environmental club basically says no. But after they leave the DSA members tout it as the "greatest success they've ever had."
Furthermore, they propose a "Peace in Ukraine rally." I suggest it be called an "Anti-US Imperialism" rally instead and I kid you not the entire room gasps. They all start saying "we can't say that kind of thing," "we can't let people think we're anti-US they'll never listen to us."
Like how little faith in the masses does the DSA have.
maybe jumping DSA members is praxis
- Jan 30, 2022Womanpuncher69
maybe jumping DSA members is praxis
Somebody got jump vaush
- Jan 30, 2022·2 replies
the debate over if or if not the canadian truck strike/protests constitutes a worker solidarity or union movement has completely plagued virtually any remotely non-moderate political place of discussion and ive yet to see a good take on it in spite of that
- Jan 30, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
the debate over if or if not the canadian truck strike/protests constitutes a worker solidarity or union movement has completely plagued virtually any remotely non-moderate political place of discussion and ive yet to see a good take on it in spite of that
Worker solidarity to die from covid
- Jan 30, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
Worker solidarity to die from covid
whether it is or isn't is only secondary really to the ability for it as a spectacle to generate terrible observational takes
Jan 30, 2022·1 replyWomanpuncher69maybe jumping DSA members is praxis
Gonzaloids were right
- Jan 30, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
whether it is or isn't is only secondary really to the ability for it as a spectacle to generate terrible observational takes
You can make the argument that it's anti-solidarity because you're putting other people at risk by not getting vaccinated lol
Making this about class really doesn't make any sense to me, and if it was about class it could go either way
Just say you don't want mandates or u do want them and leave it at that lmao
- Jan 30, 2022·1 reply
A bunch of reactoids from germany, Austria and Switzerland are moving into an isolated community is the middle of Paraguay, to keep themselves away from vaccines, 5G and other "socialist tendencies".
theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/27/paraguay-german-speaking-covid-denialists-settlement-new-paradise - Jan 30, 2022ARCADE GOON
A bunch of reactoids from germany, Austria and Switzerland are moving into an isolated community is the middle of Paraguay, to keep themselves away from vaccines, 5G and other "socialist tendencies".
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/27/paraguay-german-speaking-covid-denialists-settlement-new-paradiseSo they doing the great replacement to themselves?
- Jan 30, 2022·3 repliesScratchin Mamba
You can make the argument that it's anti-solidarity because you're putting other people at risk by not getting vaccinated lol
Making this about class really doesn't make any sense to me, and if it was about class it could go either way
Just say you don't want mandates or u do want them and leave it at that lmao
I think it's more interesting if you detach the situation from the situational morality of it. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think while it's beyond stupid, it's a clear display of not only power, but of that the workers actually recognize how much power they have. That's why I find it very funny. It's not a situation like in, i dunno, an amazon factory, where it's a constant back and forth of workers who need to be convinced they have the smallest bit of power to demand something. In this scenario, The truckers actually fully understand realize as a precursor how much power they have over the country and relative authority. In spite of that, they decide to use that said combined quasi-unionized power to...protest one of the least impactful culture war issues of the century?
Like assuming these guys are mostly say, the equivalent of the working to lower middle class Trump Voter here in the US, it's likely these guys have been complaining about things for several years - basically the loss of culture war issue one after another, or just general disdain for modern post-NAFTA (which Canada was in too obviously) political figures. So in spite of that, and the fact they collectively realize they have said power, this is what they think is worth protesting over? I think it's one of the actual funniest things in western history. It's almost parody level, it'd be like making a joke about conservative waging a people's war just against gay marriage rather than any actual underlying reform.
I think it's almost undoubtedly a form of worker collectivism, it's just simultaneously a show that morality or action doesn't inherently align alongside wider economic ethics of organization, so it's simultaneously both a display of power from workers while also essentially something pointless and meandering if not debatable morally unethical. Still, its qualification as unethical or reactionary doesn't really undermine it to be understood as a worker's movement nonetheless - it's just a critically stupid one. - Jan 30, 2022·edited·1 replykrishna bound
I think it's more interesting if you detach the situation from the situational morality of it. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think while it's beyond stupid, it's a clear display of not only power, but of that the workers actually recognize how much power they have. That's why I find it very funny. It's not a situation like in, i dunno, an amazon factory, where it's a constant back and forth of workers who need to be convinced they have the smallest bit of power to demand something. In this scenario, The truckers actually fully understand realize as a precursor how much power they have over the country and relative authority. In spite of that, they decide to use that said combined quasi-unionized power to...protest one of the least impactful culture war issues of the century?
Like assuming these guys are mostly say, the equivalent of the working to lower middle class Trump Voter here in the US, it's likely these guys have been complaining about things for several years - basically the loss of culture war issue one after another, or just general disdain for modern post-NAFTA (which Canada was in too obviously) political figures. So in spite of that, and the fact they collectively realize they have said power, this is what they think is worth protesting over? I think it's one of the actual funniest things in western history. It's almost parody level, it'd be like making a joke about conservative waging a people's war just against gay marriage rather than any actual underlying reform.
I think it's almost undoubtedly a form of worker collectivism, it's just simultaneously a show that morality or action doesn't inherently align alongside wider economic ethics of organization, so it's simultaneously both a display of power from workers while also essentially something pointless and meandering if not debatable morally unethical. Still, its qualification as unethical or reactionary doesn't really undermine it to be understood as a worker's movement nonetheless - it's just a critically stupid one.Yeah you're right it is a workers movement in the sense that it's about workers recognizing their own power, but the ends for which they're wielding their power has nothing to do with class, because it's about the right to not take the vaccine vs the right to work in a safe environment where you're not around people who are more likely to infect you, and both of these interests are from workers. So in that sense it's a workers movement in its means but in its ends it has pretty much nothing to do with any true class agenda.
But I agree it's both comical and very sad that one of the few moments that workers in the West recognize their power it's with this as irs endgoals. Shows how much politics is detached from class issues when even a workers movement doesn't have a class agenda.
- Jan 30, 2022Scratchin Mamba· edited
Yeah you're right it is a workers movement in the sense that it's about workers recognizing their own power, but the ends for which they're wielding their power has nothing to do with class, because it's about the right to not take the vaccine vs the right to work in a safe environment where you're not around people who are more likely to infect you, and both of these interests are from workers. So in that sense it's a workers movement in its means but in its ends it has pretty much nothing to do with any true class agenda.
But I agree it's both comical and very sad that one of the few moments that workers in the West recognize their power it's with this as irs endgoals. Shows how much politics is detached from class issues when even a workers movement doesn't have a class agenda.
Yeah that's basically my point simplified. I just think the real irony is that you have this broad movement of impactful and influential workers collectivizing who ironically have this entire time realized their power and just haven't actually cared despite otherwise complaining. It's almost like a parody because it's like literal half a century of bad policy
something vaguely about a vaccine 
Like they didn't even think that any of their critical culture war issues were important enough for this. They complain about the west being destroyed by liberal culture or whatever, and realize they have this power, but this is the line drawn to use that power? Nothing else? It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing. - Jan 30, 2022·1 replyARCADE GOON
Gonzaloids were right
Always have been
- Jan 30, 2022·1 replyCudderwalks
Always have been
Except when choosing hideouts for their leadership
