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  • May 15, 2022
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    You can't find one defensive operation in NATO's history. Their interventions in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya barely had any legal basis even by the standards of muh liberal international order. But yes, please tell me how leftists need to celebrate Sweden (which has helped in half of these) and Finlands decision to join a "defensive alliance"

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    the reds

    You can't find one defensive operation in NATO's history. Their interventions in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya barely had any legal basis even by the standards of muh liberal international order. But yes, please tell me how leftists need to celebrate Sweden (which has helped in half of these) and Finlands decision to join a "defensive alliance"

    nordic countries are lib paradises and thats not a complement

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    the reds

    You can't find one defensive operation in NATO's history. Their interventions in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya barely had any legal basis even by the standards of muh liberal international order. But yes, please tell me how leftists need to celebrate Sweden (which has helped in half of these) and Finlands decision to join a "defensive alliance"

    Finland is entirely justified in joining

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    Yuzzy

    Finland is entirely justified in joining

    where ur avi from

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    Yuzzy

    Finland is entirely justified in joining

    Anarchists when they see state-based socialist structures banding together to fight capitalism

    Anarchists when they see liberal capitalists reinforcing an imperialist military alliance

  • May 15, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    why hasn’t anyone done a marxist self help grift book, talking about everything in motion and anyone can change don’t think it would be too hard to use marxist philosophy on a self help way

    All we rly got is a fascist worked out today did you?

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    In an alternative universe Che Guevara woulda been a Marxist self-help grifter

  • May 15, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    All we rly got is a fascist worked out today did you?

    i mean the whole concept of dialectic materialism applied to the person that we are always changing, and the person we are right now can become better and you aren’t stuck as the loser you are, there’s hope but in like a self help way

    you know what i’m hella broke rn i might have to give this a try

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    Yuzzy

    Finland is entirely justified in joining

    It's one thing to say it's the logical consequence of Putin's actions

    It's another thing to say it's ever justifiable to join a "defensive" military alliance that has only ever carried out imperialist military invasions

  • May 15, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    i mean the whole concept of dialectic materialism applied to the person that we are always changing, and the person we are right now can become better and you aren’t stuck as the loser you are, there’s hope but in like a self help way

    you know what i’m hella broke rn i might have to give this a try

    I'm verso or at least zero books would publish it

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    Scratchin Mamba

    It's one thing to say it's the logical consequence of Putin's actions

    It's another thing to say it's ever justifiable to join a "defensive" military alliance that has only ever carried out imperialist military invasions

    It’s actually defending democracy though

    I’m an anarchism btw

  • May 15, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    where ur avi from

    Hypnagogic Hallucinations by The Devouring Void
    Albums worth checking but I just like the cover art

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    americana

    It’s actually defending democracy though

    I’m an anarchism btw

    Vaush syndrome pray for the anarchists

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    Scratchin Mamba

    It's one thing to say it's the logical consequence of Putin's actions

    It's another thing to say it's ever justifiable to join a "defensive" military alliance that has only ever carried out imperialist military invasions

    Part of NATOs actions are intimidation though, being in NATO means their border won't be breached by an attacking Russia.
    I don't support NATOs interventions but also dont think Finnish and Swedish membership will make a material difference in how NATO acts in the future. Way I see it the net result is a safe finland and sweden at the expense of further power centralizaton, which I don't like but also dont think finland and sweden are that important to NATO hegemony

  • May 15, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Vaush syndrome pray for the anarchists

    We do not claim him

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    Yuzzy

    Part of NATOs actions are intimidation though, being in NATO means their border won't be breached by an attacking Russia.
    I don't support NATOs interventions but also dont think Finnish and Swedish membership will make a material difference in how NATO acts in the future. Way I see it the net result is a safe finland and sweden at the expense of further power centralizaton, which I don't like but also dont think finland and sweden are that important to NATO hegemony

    It makes NATO stronger, it legitimizes NATO and its future invasions more by creating a bigger tent.

    I get that being part of NATO pretty much guarantees you won't be invaded by anybody, but some things I personally just principally oppose regardless of any cost-benefit a***ysis.

    Similarly to how I reject the legitimacy of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact's justification based on safety, I reject any country joining an invading imperialist military alliance based on wearing off an invasion.

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    @DontAtMe thoughts on non hegelian marxists ?

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    Womanpuncher69

    @DontAtMe thoughts on non hegelian marxists ?

    Wym? I’d say most Marxists are not Hegelians outside of certain Western Marxists like Lukacs maybe

    Or are you referring to a***ytical Marxism?

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    Oh I forgot to send y’all these while I was in NYC. Here’s some easy introductions to Hegel from a Marxist perspective @Womanpuncher69 @AmoryBlain

    re-press.org/book-files/9780980819762-Rational_Kernal_of_the_Hegelian_Dialectic_V2.pdf

    marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/en/cliff.htm

    marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/cons-logic/summary.htm

    This last one isn’t about Hegel directly as much but if you’re interested in reading a Marxist who’s heavily informed by Hegel this is good. I have some issues with Lukacs but this is an important work with a lot of really valuable insights imo

    marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history

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    americana

    @Womanpuncher69 what was the work of Mao that you said was more in depth than Combat Liberalism?

    He might have been referring to this

    marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_5.htm

    This is good too

    marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_58.htm

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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    Wym? I’d say most Marxists are not Hegelians outside of certain Western Marxists like Lukacs maybe

    Or are you referring to a***ytical Marxism?

    like Paul Cockshott who reject hegel maybe i’m referring to a***ytical marxism i’m not sure

    How’s Lukacs i heard him before but mainly just negative stuff

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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    He might have been referring to this

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_5.htm

    This is good too

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_58.htm

    i was referring to liberalism a counter history which i thought would fit his essay better than combat liberalism since the latter i find is just how members of orgs and party should treat each other

  • Womanpuncher69

    like Paul Cockshott who reject hegel maybe i’m referring to a***ytical marxism i’m not sure

    How’s Lukacs i heard him before but mainly just negative stuff

    I’m not familiar with Cockshott

    That’s a wild name tho

    Lukacs has some issues but I think his writings on class and class consciousness are generally great, or at least pose a lot of questions we need to grapple with even if he doesn’t always have the right answers

  • May 15, 2022
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    What leftist tendency do yall dislike the most? For me it used to be anarchists but maoists have replaced them.

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    Womanpuncher69

    i was referring to liberalism a counter history which i thought would fit his essay better than combat liberalism since the latter i find is just how members of orgs and party should treat each other

    I hadn’t heard of that book before but it sounds really interesting, I’m gonna grab a copy