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  • Apr 4, 2020
    scihoi

  • Apr 5, 2020
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    JohnnyFive

    I'm pretty right leaning and I never understood people losing their minds when a country wants to arm itself. If America can do it then any other country should 🤷

    we should disarm all countries

  • Apr 8, 2020
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    Just watch this one

  • Apr 8, 2020
    SPACEDOUT

    Just watch this one

    https://twitter.com/ChungusChad/status/1247730348143804421

  • Apr 9, 2020

    discord.gg/6FyXw4
    live socialism / communist book reading discord
    /r/socLit

  • Apr 10, 2020
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  • Apr 10, 2020
    Synopsis

    @Cudderwalks ?

    Was gonna ask for some book suggestions because I’m trying to learn more about Socialism but then I saw the book club.

    My bad bro

  • Apr 10, 2020
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    @Synopsis If you got em' I'll still take your suggestions. Really respect your views.

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    Just watch this one

    https://twitter.com/ChungusChad/status/1247730348143804421

    get that larpy groyper account outta this thread fash

  • Apr 13, 2020
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    Cudderwalks

    @Synopsis If you got em' I'll still take your suggestions. Really respect your views.

    nodo50.org/mai/idiomas/ingles/study-plan.html

    If you have any questions regarding the texts feel free to ask

  • Apr 13, 2020
    Pexlivanis

    https://www.nodo50.org/mai/idiomas/ingles/study-plan.html

    If you have any questions regarding the texts feel free to ask

    I also reccomend you read Marx's Capital Vol. I AFTER you have read Lenin's Imperialism: Highest Stage of Capital

  • Apr 13, 2020

  • Apr 13, 2020

    Left anticommunists find any association with communist organizations morally unacceptable because of the "crimes of communism."

    Yet many of them are themselves associated with the Democratic party in this country, either as voters or as members, apparently unconcerned about the morally unacceptable political crimes committed by leaders of that organization. Under one or another Democratic administration, 120,000 Japanese Americans were torn from their homes and livelihoods and thrown into detention camps; atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki with an enormous loss of innocent life; the FBI was given authority to infiltrate political groups; the Smith Act was used to imprison leaders of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party and later on leaders of the Communist party for their political beliefs; detention camps were established to round up political dissidents in the event of a "national emergency"; during the late 1940s and 1950s, eight thousand federal workers were purged from government because of their political associations and views, with thousands more in all walks of life witchhunted out of their careers; the Neutrality Act was used to impose an embargo on the Spanish Republic that worked in favor of Franco's fascist legions; homicidal counterinsurgency programs were initiated in various Third World countries; and the Vietnam War was pursued and escalated. And for the better part of a century, the Congressional leadership of the Democratic party protected racial segregation and stymied all antilynching and fair employment bills.

    Yet all these crimes, bringing ruination and death to many, have not moved the liberals, the social democrats, and the "democratic socialist" anticommunists to insist repeatedly that we issue blanket condemnations of either the Democratic party or the political system that produced it, certainly not with the intolerant fervor that has been directed against existing communism.

  • Apr 13, 2020
    Castle

    Doesn’t it kinda prove my point that both systems can coexist when they both acknowledge that labor itself adds worth?

    Except that economists suddenly renounced LTV after it was associated with Marxism and came up with other BS that is completely decoupled from reality ("marginal value")

    A bourgeois economist has little in common with Smith Riccardo or Marx

  • Apr 14, 2020
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    Unfortunately, this "pure socialism" view is ahistorical and nonfalsifiable; it cannot be tested against the actualities of history. It compares an ideal against an imperfect reality, and the reality comes off a poor second. It imagines what socialism would be like in a world far better than this one, where no strong state structure or security force is required, where none of the value produced by workers needs to be expropriated to rebuild society and defend it from invasion and internal sabotage.

    The pure socialists' ideological anticipations remain untainted by existing practice. They do not explain how the manifold functions of a revolutionary society would be organized, how external attack and internal sabotage would be thwarted, how bureaucracy would be avoided, scarce resources allocated, policy differences settled, priorities set, and production and distribution conducted. Instead, they offer vague statements about how the workers themselves will directly own and control the means of production and will arrive at their own solutions through creative struggle. No surprise then that the pure socialists support every revolution except the ones that succeed.

  • Apr 14, 2020
    ARCADE GOON

    Unfortunately, this "pure socialism" view is ahistorical and nonfalsifiable; it cannot be tested against the actualities of history. It compares an ideal against an imperfect reality, and the reality comes off a poor second. It imagines what socialism would be like in a world far better than this one, where no strong state structure or security force is required, where none of the value produced by workers needs to be expropriated to rebuild society and defend it from invasion and internal sabotage.

    The pure socialists' ideological anticipations remain untainted by existing practice. They do not explain how the manifold functions of a revolutionary society would be organized, how external attack and internal sabotage would be thwarted, how bureaucracy would be avoided, scarce resources allocated, policy differences settled, priorities set, and production and distribution conducted. Instead, they offer vague statements about how the workers themselves will directly own and control the means of production and will arrive at their own solutions through creative struggle. No surprise then that the pure socialists support every revolution except the ones that succeed.

    Found Parenti's alt

  • Apr 15, 2020

    youtu.be/rRXvQuE9xO4

    This is a very good video despite some semantic issues as well. I also disagree with their diatribes on Stalin.

  • Apr 15, 2020

    just wanted to say that there is a lot more of us on this site than I expected. This s*** usually feel like MAGAKTT2. Stay strong y'all :​

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    People really say with their whole chest that Native Americans have "western privilege" because they live in the U.S..Canada (e,g. don't live in the Global South)

    Might be one of the worst takes I've ever seen in leftist circles.People need to stop talking about things in a vacuum. There's groups of people here who have no benefits of being "Amerikan"

  • Apr 18, 2020

    Anyone else shifted from heavy theory reading to history?

  • Apr 19, 2020
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    Mulder

    People really say with their whole chest that Native Americans have "western privilege" because they live in the U.S..Canada (e,g. don't live in the Global South)

    Might be one of the worst takes I've ever seen in leftist circles.People need to stop talking about things in a vacuum. There's groups of people here who have no benefits of being "Amerikan"

    completely undialectical

  • Apr 19, 2020
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    Pexlivanis

    completely undialectical

    Me or the ppl I'm complaining about?

    sn: AOC needs to stop calling herself a socialist immediately.

  • Apr 19, 2020
    Mulder

    Me or the ppl I'm complaining about?

    sn: AOC needs to stop calling herself a socialist immediately.

    the ppl youre complaining about

  • Apr 19, 2020
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    Frog

    we should disarm all countries

    right. and exactly how would you go about doing so?