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  • Watching Bitter Lake on shrooms rn

  • May 22, 2022

    American Labor History 1619-1980

  • May 22, 2022
    Lein

    RIP giovanni arrighi always had some smart s*** to say

    just copped The Long Twentieth Century

  • May 22, 2022

    I didnt cry when Bookchin died
    But Imma cry when Parenti does

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    RIP David Graeber and Mark Fisher

  • May 22, 2022
    SEGA GOON

    RIP David Graeber and Mark Fisher

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    Anarcho-natoists be like

    Imperialist military alliance between states that only invades other countries = needed for self-defence

    State to defend yourself from said imperialist invaders = unnecessary, abolish it immediately

  • May 22, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Anarcho-natoists be like

    Imperialist military alliance between states that only invades other countries = needed for self-defence

    State to defend yourself from said imperialist invaders = unnecessary, abolish it immediately

    At the end of the day they are just regular liberal kaks

  • May 22, 2022
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    A genuine social democracy can only exist if the bourgeoisie are scared s***less of a communist revolution and are forced to compromise with the proletariat

    Hence European social democracy's decline since the dissolution of the USSR

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    SEGA GOON

    A genuine social democracy can only exist if the bourgeoisie are scared s***less of a communist revolution and are forced to compromise with the proletariat

    Hence European social democracy's decline since the dissolution of the USSR

    The European social democracies have been implementing Neoliberal reforms since the 70s way before soviet collapse. Their labor movement and social-imperialists are anything but revolutionary, but they're very organized so they got a great compromise during the golden age of Capitalism. And that strong labor movement has allowed them to better resist Austerity.

    They welfare Capitalism bad and they got it

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    the reds

    The European social democracies have been implementing Neoliberal reforms since the 70s way before soviet collapse. Their labor movement and social-imperialists are anything but revolutionary, but they're very organized so they got a great compromise during the golden age of Capitalism. And that strong labor movement has allowed them to better resist Austerity.

    They welfare Capitalism bad and they got it

    Strong neoliberal reforms proper have only started in the 1980s, where the Soviet decline was apparent and communist movements shrank

    1970s neoliberalism was more limited worldwide, like Pinochet

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    The mass privatizations in most European countries began in the 1990s btw, in the UK and US neoliberalism was already underway in the 1980s under Thatcher and Reagan

    1970s social democrats still sang The Internationale and s***

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    SEGA GOON

    Strong neoliberal reforms proper have only started in the 1980s, where the Soviet decline was apparent and communist movements shrank

    1970s neoliberalism was more limited worldwide, like Pinochet

    Correlation =/= Causation. I guarantee you that getting BTFO'd by Japanese industry was much more of a factor in Sweden than whatever was going on in the USSR which was never going to invade after WW2

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    the reds

    Correlation =/= Causation. I guarantee you that getting BTFO'd by Japanese industry was much more of a factor in Sweden than whatever was going on in the USSR which was never going to invade after WW2

    Then you need to read up on more history my fella

    Which country are you from

  • May 22, 2022

    I recommend A Brief History of Neoliberalism by David Harvey

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    SEGA GOON

    Then you need to read up on more history my fella

    Which country are you from

    Don't worry about it

  • May 22, 2022
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    the reds

    Don't worry about it

    The USSR was still the world's second biggest economy in the 80s

    You really have to comprehend how much its sudden collapse influenced the political landscape even in capitalist countries

    Almost all the communist movements committed harakiri instantly

  • May 22, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    The mass privatizations in most European countries began in the 1990s btw, in the UK and US neoliberalism was already underway in the 1980s under Thatcher and Reagan

    1970s social democrats still sang The Internationale and s***

    In the Netherlands had a president that visited Chile under Allende and condemned the coup that installed Pinochet

    That same party (PVDA) just another neoliberal party these days

  • May 22, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    In the Netherlands had a president that visited Chile under Allende and condemned the coup that installed Pinochet

    That same party (PVDA) just another neoliberal party these days

    Guys like Tony Benn were in high government posts in 1970s UK

    It is absolutely remarkable how much the political landscape changed since then

    Like the proliferation of French communist intellectuals in the 1950s and 1960s is unimaginable today:

    cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86S00588R000300380001-5.pdf

    The CIA states that this shift only really appeared in the 80s

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    the reds

    Correlation =/= Causation. I guarantee you that getting BTFO'd by Japanese industry was much more of a factor in Sweden than whatever was going on in the USSR which was never going to invade after WW2

    It wasn't about an invasion tho, it's about the internal threat of revolution and labor militancy. Nordic countries especially have a history with strong labor unions

    In many western european countries you see the same pattern. Communist parties mergung or outright changing their entire platform after the collapse of the USSR, with Maoist parties this happened a lot after Deng came to power

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    SEGA GOON

    The USSR was still the world's second biggest economy in the 80s

    You really have to comprehend how much its sudden collapse influenced the political landscape even in capitalist countries

    Almost all the communist movements committed harakiri instantly

    Of course but the Capitalist welfare state was on its way out before that. What the collapse of the USSR did was give carte blanche to US foreign policy and discredit socialist politics which made Austerity easier to implement but they were already implementing it.

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    Scratchin Mamba

    It wasn't about an invasion tho, it's about the internal threat of revolution and labor militancy. Nordic countries especially have a history with strong labor unions

    In many western european countries you see the same pattern. Communist parties mergung or outright changing their entire platform after the collapse of the USSR, with Maoist parties this happened a lot after Deng came to power

    Yeah but the nordic labor unions and socialists are especially reformist / eurocommunist. I could see the argument made for the French left but it was really never the case in Scandinavia.

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    the reds

    Of course but the Capitalist welfare state was on its way out before that. What the collapse of the USSR did was give carte blanche to US foreign policy and discredit socialist politics which made Austerity easier to implement but they were already implementing it.

    The examples I know were primarily in the 1990s. For example in Germany the Agenda 21 under Schröder, which dismantled one of the strongest welfare states in the world. I think if we did a study we would find most privatizations in the EU happened in the 90s. I don't have any statistics right now to prove it tho

  • May 22, 2022
    the reds

    Yeah but the nordic labor unions and socialists are especially reformist / eurocommunist. I could see the argument made for the French left but it was really never the case in Scandinavia.

    The threat is implicit by having a huge superpower to the east that can destabilize your country via intellectuals and riling up the population, it doesn't have to make 100% sense, it just has to threaten the bourgeoisie enough to back down a bit

    I really think you are seriously underestimating what the mere existence of the USSR + Warsaw Pact meant for Western Europe

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    the reds

    Yeah but the nordic labor unions and socialists are especially reformist / eurocommunist. I could see the argument made for the French left but it was really never the case in Scandinavia.

    But even a reformist socialist movement is enough of a threat for capitalists to make concessions especially when it's connected to labor unions and even more so when revolutionary communist parties are bigger as well