Jun 25, 2022·1 replykrishna boundabove from @Scratchin_Bandit are all good links but my honest opinion is that its better to organically start learning about it from sources that sound interesting to you and then further go down tangential paths on what aspects of former readings interest you the most idiosyncratically. i don't really say this because of trying to reduce socialist/communist thought to a book club, but rather because if you're into learning more, it's likely you already have sympathies in a direction of which simply reading further is unlikely to further change your political behavior, so the reading should be supplemental to where your interests lay/why you have those sympathies to begin with imo
yeah i agree with this having a schizo path of development is much better for keeping interested in the long term rather than trying to follow a reading guide set in stone which would just burn you out cause u really don’t care about the topic c
- Jun 25, 2022·2 replies
Scratchin MambaPowerful
For intro in theory I recommend Ernest Mandel summary on Marxian economic theory:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/mandel/1967/intromet/index.htm
Karl Marx - Wage Labor and Capital:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/
Engels - Principles of Communism:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
Most important text on Marxist philosophy I would say is the German ideology which gives an outline for historical materialism:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/
For intro on history of the USSR Michael Parenti blackshirts and reds you can find the pdf with a quick Google search
Also some of his lectures good introductory stuff:
!https://youtu.be/tgTWnUpvNiM!https://youtu.be/xP8CzlFhc14Besides these which are the basics I would recommend reading on the subjects that interest you mostly bc otherwise it can be difficult to keep up. Gotta peep das Kapital one day as well tho
Lmk if u want sum about a particular subject
id only rec the chapter of historical materialism from the german ideology the rest would be too much for a beginner
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
above from @Scratchin_Bandit are all good links but my honest opinion is that its better to organically start learning about it from sources that sound interesting to you and then further go down tangential paths on what aspects of former readings interest you the most idiosyncratically. i don't really say this because of trying to reduce socialist/communist thought to a book club, but rather because if you're into learning more, it's likely you already have sympathies in a direction of which simply reading further is unlikely to further change your political behavior, so the reading should be supplemental to where your interests lay/why you have those sympathies to begin with imo
Definitely
That's why i said if u wanna get into the basics that's it but mostly read abt what interests you
I rly didn't change my worldview all that much i just found an theory that explained it along the lines where my sympathies lie
I was always poor man good rich man bad westoids bad
- Jun 25, 2022Womanpuncher69
id only rec the chapter of historical materialism from the german ideology the rest would be too much for a beginner
Tru
- Jun 25, 2022·2 repliesWomanpuncher69
yeah i agree with this having a schizo path of development is much better for keeping interested in the long term rather than trying to follow a reading guide set in stone which would just burn you out cause u really don’t care about the topic c
Schizo path usually doesn't end well tbh lol
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
Schizo path usually doesn't end well tbh lol
where it ends
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
Schizo path usually doesn't end well tbh lol
if uve done the basics and classics i don’t really see any other path tbh
- Jun 25, 2022
I went from racism bad and MORE SOCIAL PROGRAMMS to
Hmm coops look intresting
But damn what about the profit motive and market madness
To hey the USSR had some great accomplishments, long live Stalin, Lenin's testament was forged
To damn their eventual demise was already embedded in the measures they took out of survival during the civil war but a loss aint a loss it's a LESSON
- Jun 25, 2022krishna bound
where it ends
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyWomanpuncher69
if uve done the basics and classics i don’t really see any other path tbh
Depends on how u define schizo
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
Depends on how u define schizo
i’m using it liberally just whatever interests you
- Jun 25, 2022Womanpuncher69
i’m using it liberally just whatever interests you
Using it how?
- Jun 25, 2022·2 replies
I nooticed the white schizo path takers that used to be far right often regress
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
I nooticed the white schizo path takers that used to be far right often regress
imo thats usually because most people in that direction are male and looking for some type of hope, validaion, or social purpose and if you tow the ideological line just being frank far right twitter/discord/etc circles are far more friendly and less drama-prone than left wing ones, in part because their beliefs are so malleable due to being reactionary
- Jun 25, 2022Scratchin Mamba
Definitely
That's why i said if u wanna get into the basics that's it but mostly read abt what interests you
I rly didn't change my worldview all that much i just found an theory that explained it along the lines where my sympathies lie
I was always poor man good rich man bad westoids bad
Same here I always hated Bush and the US government and thought Chavez and Castro were cool
Jun 25, 2022·2 repliesthank you all for the advice and links
(I hope ill read this s*** fr lmao)
@Scratchin_Bandit @Womanpuncher69 @krishna_bound- Jun 25, 2022·1 replykrishna bound
imo thats usually because most people in that direction are male and looking for some type of hope, validaion, or social purpose and if you tow the ideological line just being frank far right twitter/discord/etc circles are far more friendly and less drama-prone than left wing ones, in part because their beliefs are so malleable due to being reactionary
They should just get some b****es and hit the gym or smth
- Jun 25, 2022DonutHole
thank you all for the advice and links
(I hope ill read this s*** fr lmao)
@Scratchin_Bandit @Womanpuncher69 @krishna_bound
- Jun 25, 2022·3 repliesDonutHole
thank you all for the advice and links
(I hope ill read this s*** fr lmao)
@Scratchin_Bandit @Womanpuncher69 @krishna_boundThe mandel text is the best summary IMO
It was the text I used on Mr. Bandit himself...
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
I nooticed the white schizo path takers that used to be far right often regress
that’s why i propose we keep an eye on all white posters itt like the KGB
- Jun 25, 2022Womanpuncher69
that’s why i propose we keep an eye on all white posters itt like the KGB
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replyScratchin Mamba
They should just get some b****es and hit the gym or smth
see thats the thing, youll have dudes telling people that on far right circles. like "bro start lifting and cutting seed oils out your diet, you want woman? bro women dont matter, they aren't gonna make you feel better. women aren't even human bro. reject society." if you tell someone "maybe you need to get some b****es" on a left wing discord you're gonna be banned immediatedly for degrading women unless it's like a circle from eds like vaush or destiny which are """left wing""" who rely on being slightly edgy to compensate for their lack of real distinguishing beliefs from the mainstream
- Jun 25, 2022SEGA GOON
Lenin is directly based off Kautsky and cites him all the time
Kautsky is to be criticized for his WW1 actions and everything afterwards, not his entire body of work
I don’t disagree but they’re drawing inspiration from the worst parts of Kautsky lol
- Jun 25, 2022·1 replySEGA GOON
The mandel text is the best summary IMO
It was the text I used on Mr. Bandit himself...
not me turning into the second coming of scratchin
(this reads so dramatic lol)
- Jun 25, 2022krishna bound
see thats the thing, youll have dudes telling people that on far right circles. like "bro start lifting and cutting seed oils out your diet, you want woman? bro women dont matter, they aren't gonna make you feel better. women aren't even human bro. reject society." if you tell someone "maybe you need to get some b****es" on a left wing discord you're gonna be banned immediatedly for degrading women unless it's like a circle from eds like vaush or destiny which are """left wing""" who rely on being slightly edgy to compensate for their lack of real distinguishing beliefs from the mainstream
Yeah far right gives em a much more comforting COPE for their sad little pathetic lives while giving them a solution that still makes em feel superior