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  • Jun 25, 2022
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    krishna bound

    probably has a lot to do w the fact ktt2 is way easier to be banned from than ktt. like just posting a boosie clip gets you autobanned in music sxn, that alone probably weeds out like 90% of posters in that direction

    IMO I miss some aspects of old KTT1 but the socialism thread is much better than it used to be, I checked the old one and most were all just Bernie Bros

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    Except for @Napoleon doing cryptic Frankfurt School posts

  • Jun 25, 2022
    SEGA GOON

    @Womanpuncher69 is Mass Line Man

    the double entendre

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    @DonutHole
    Marxism is an interdisciplinary science
    Some people are more interested in certain aspects of it than others
    Some like the philosophy, some the economy, some the history, some the sociology
    You can start with the Ernest Mandel text which is pretty short given its topic, and then just go from there to things that interest you

    You can always ask in this thread too we are friendly except for a few topics you probably won't get into for a while

    Maybe Marxist feminism, theories on imperialism and colonialism and racism will interest you, socialism in Africa, maybe other things, just let the wind guide you

    I for example am probably the most well-read in the thread about value form discussions (because nobody else cares about it here except for me), and others are more well-read on let's say Chinese Revolution etc., we all have our own interests and pet topics

    "Maybe Marxist feminism, theories on imperialism and colonialism and racism will interest you, socialism in Africa, maybe other things, just let the wind guide you"

    have we met before or sum? how u know me like that

    lmao but thanks for all of this advice too, will def read the ernest mandel text since it has been recommended multiple times

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    Except for @Napoleon doing cryptic Frankfurt School posts

    We can think him for all the data AI text gens use

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    IMO I miss some aspects of old KTT1 but the socialism thread is much better than it used to be, I checked the old one and most were all just Bernie Bros

    i was only active on ktt1 for like a month under a different name before i lost my login info and got locked out of my account right during the time registration was closed. the site was definitely way edgier humor/etc wise i think thats the biggest difference

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    DonutHole

    "Maybe Marxist feminism, theories on imperialism and colonialism and racism will interest you, socialism in Africa, maybe other things, just let the wind guide you"

    have we met before or sum? how u know me like that

    lmao but thanks for all of this advice too, will def read the ernest mandel text since it has been recommended multiple times

    I know you are a girl and black and live in Europe that's all I know tho, I just read ur posts, we never spoke personally or something

    Im Arcade Goon btw in case u didnt know, fka Arcade Thug on KTT1

  • Jun 25, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    We can think him for all the data AI text gens use

    Mans went crazy with the thesaurus gotta respek it

  • Jun 25, 2022
    krishna bound

    i was only active on ktt1 for like a month under a different name before i lost my login info and got locked out of my account right during the time registration was closed. the site was definitely way edgier humor/etc wise i think thats the biggest difference

    It was funnier but rougher yeah

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    I know you are a girl and black and live in Europe that's all I know tho, I just read ur posts, we never spoke personally or something

    Im Arcade Goon btw in case u didnt know, fka Arcade Thug on KTT1

    I need to move more discretely in these ktt streets

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    A friend of mine is asexual (also is an high-functioning autist with Aspergers and very smart) and he's now getting super deep into anti-natalism He isn't a communist but he is vaguely leftist. I don't personally agree with anti-natalism, in fact I am pro-natalist, but I respect the fella enough to entertain his thoughts. Some of the anti-natalism s*** is pretty dark and suicidal though. There's this German anarchist who did anti-natalism and pessimism and he killed himself at like age 31 sometime in the 1800s, my friend thinks he is cool

  • Jun 25, 2022
    DonutHole

    I need to move more discretely in these ktt streets

    That's not so bad IMO just generic info

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    A friend of mine is asexual (also is an high-functioning autist with Aspergers and very smart) and he's now getting super deep into anti-natalism He isn't a communist but he is vaguely leftist. I don't personally agree with anti-natalism, in fact I am pro-natalist, but I respect the fella enough to entertain his thoughts. Some of the anti-natalism s*** is pretty dark and suicidal though. There's this German anarchist who did anti-natalism and pessimism and he killed himself at like age 31 sometime in the 1800s, my friend thinks he is cool

    so why is this fella anti-natalist ?

  • Jun 25, 2022
    DonutHole

    "Maybe Marxist feminism, theories on imperialism and colonialism and racism will interest you, socialism in Africa, maybe other things, just let the wind guide you"

    have we met before or sum? how u know me like that

    lmao but thanks for all of this advice too, will def read the ernest mandel text since it has been recommended multiple times

    here’s a good text on marxist feminism, talks about the history of feminism in general and how it differs from marxist feminism
    foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S02-Philosophical-Trends-in-the-Feminist-Movement-6th-Printing.pdf

  • Jun 25, 2022
    DonutHole

    so why is this fella anti-natalist ?

    He says nobody asks to be born and inflicting life onto someone means you give them reason to suffer and eventually die

    Maybe some climate change stuff too like the world going to s***

    TBH I think him being asexual might be a big reason for it too

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    DonutHole

    so why is this fella anti-natalist ?

    It all basically comes down to my life sucks and I didn't consent to being born

  • Jun 25, 2022

    I never understood why some said stuff like this: "Under socialism people would technically be free to have as many children as they'd like, but the material conditions would be as such that that desire would be uncommon. Birth rates in countries with high accessibility to birth control and educational access for women are typically pretty low. "

    I'd argue it would be the exact opposite. If you have to only work 10h, 20h a week, and have a bunch of free-time, and relationships are more based on love than financial considerations (since everyone is more or less equal), then wouldn't you be much more willing to have a child?

    Birth rates are lower in developed countries because simply put women have to work longer hours and can't raise a child on the side easily, plus life being more expensive, plus universities/colleges not being built for mothers to go study there easily so many have to push off children to a later age.

  • Jun 25, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    It all basically comes down to my life sucks and I didn't consent to being born

    I DIDNT CONSENT TO THIS

    I think anti-natalism and revolutionary optimism don't mix

  • Jun 25, 2022

    I really love the guy though but I'm worried anti-natalism might push him into pessimistic nihilism which IMO isn't a good way to live

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    I checked /r/antinatalism and their favored slur is "breeders"

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    @DonutHole here’s a good, modern, easy to read intro to the core parts of Marxism foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/S20-Basic-Principles-of-ML-6th-Printing.pdf

    This is a really good book by Engels that that’s also a good overview of Marxism altho it is definitely more difficult so if you’re not into that kind of writing style then hold off marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/index.htm

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    SEGA GOON

    I checked /r/antinatalism and their favored slur is "breeders"

    that’s my fav slur for h*tros as well lmao

  • Jun 25, 2022
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    @DonutHole here’s a good, modern, easy to read intro to the core parts of Marxism https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/S20-Basic-Principles-of-ML-6th-Printing.pdf

    This is a really good book by Engels that that’s also a good overview of Marxism altho it is definitely more difficult so if you’re not into that kind of writing style then hold off https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/index.htm

    Engels has Principles of Communism, the pre-cursor to the Communist Manifesto, written in a Q&A style

    marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

    And Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
    marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm

    These are the two most basic Engels texts probably

  • Jun 25, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    that’s my fav slur for h*tros as well lmao

    U aint breeding? U aint on the cream team?

  • SEGA GOON

    Engels has Principles of Communism, the pre-cursor to the Communist Manifesto, written in a Q&A style

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

    And Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm

    These are the two most basic Engels texts probably

    Oh yeah duh how did I forget about Principles, that’s what I always give to people irl. Definitely agree it’s one of the first things anyone should read imo

    Socialism Utopian and Scientific is an excerpt from Anti Duhring btw

    @DonutHole def start with Principles of Communism imo