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  • Jul 4, 2022
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    krishna bound

    Libya giving up nukes was easily the worst mistake Gaddafi made, but I understand why he did it to the extent he expected it to not just be transactional but as a means of his idea of political good

    unfortunately that idea was misguided and too optimistic

    he saw saddam get captured and assumed that the westoids would spare him if he threw them a bone

    from my understanding, Gaddafi drastically improved the material conditions of Libya from the time he assumed power, but there was little opportunity for real democratic participation from Libyans, and also existing antagonisms between the East and West of Libya. these two things + rising food prices as a result of increased privatization led to mass uprisings against him that quickly became militant

    it was a "fair" battle between the rebels and Gaddafi until NATO stepped in and just started bombing everything.

    US came in with AC-130s to bypass the no boots on the ground stipulation of Resolution 1973. so f***ed reading how the US used satellite imagery to spot Gaddafis troops, which was then relayed to rebel armies on the ground. thats so f***ing op

    and despite all this technology they still managed to kill countless civilians and bomb civilian populated areas

  • Jul 4, 2022
    fun guy

    he saw saddam get captured and assumed that the westoids would spare him if he threw them a bone

    from my understanding, Gaddafi drastically improved the material conditions of Libya from the time he assumed power, but there was little opportunity for real democratic participation from Libyans, and also existing antagonisms between the East and West of Libya. these two things + rising food prices as a result of increased privatization led to mass uprisings against him that quickly became militant

    it was a "fair" battle between the rebels and Gaddafi until NATO stepped in and just started bombing everything.

    US came in with AC-130s to bypass the no boots on the ground stipulation of Resolution 1973. so f***ed reading how the US used satellite imagery to spot Gaddafis troops, which was then relayed to rebel armies on the ground. thats so f***ing op

    and despite all this technology they still managed to kill countless civilians and bomb civilian populated areas

    You did have democratic participation through the elected general people's congress, but it wasn't exactly the direct democracy he said je wanted it to be, it was representative, and Gaddafi still held a lot of personal power

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    fun guy

    he saw saddam get captured and assumed that the westoids would spare him if he threw them a bone

    from my understanding, Gaddafi drastically improved the material conditions of Libya from the time he assumed power, but there was little opportunity for real democratic participation from Libyans, and also existing antagonisms between the East and West of Libya. these two things + rising food prices as a result of increased privatization led to mass uprisings against him that quickly became militant

    it was a "fair" battle between the rebels and Gaddafi until NATO stepped in and just started bombing everything.

    US came in with AC-130s to bypass the no boots on the ground stipulation of Resolution 1973. so f***ed reading how the US used satellite imagery to spot Gaddafis troops, which was then relayed to rebel armies on the ground. thats so f***ing op

    and despite all this technology they still managed to kill countless civilians and bomb civilian populated areas

    i pray for the day i see Nato dissolving inshallah

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    i pray for the day i see Nato dissolving inshallah

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    fun guy

    hes always been a liberal he ran as candidate for a liberal party before lol

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    Womanpuncher69

    hes always been a liberal he ran as candidate for a liberal party before lol

    the best thing zizek has done by far is his commentary on lenin's the day after the revolution

    i will never understand why outside memes he's held in high regard

  • all they had to do was listen

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    krishna bound

    the best thing zizek has done by far is his commentary on lenin's the day after the revolution

    i will never understand why outside memes he's held in high regard

    got a link to em, I never seen em. I also need to reread his commentary on Mao since I know much more hundred flowers blossom campaign now and wanna see what Hegelian bs hes up to.

    Yeah I feel the same on the meme thing, hes actual takes always somes like mental gymnastics to justify being a liberal

  • Womanpuncher69

    got a link to em, I never seen em. I also need to reread his commentary on Mao since I know much more hundred flowers blossom campaign now and wanna see what Hegelian bs hes up to.

    Yeah I feel the same on the meme thing, hes actual takes always somes like mental gymnastics to justify being a liberal

    i dont have a PDF link off hand but heres a link where you can get the ISBN to search in LibGen or whatever versobooks.com/books/2789-the-day-after-the-revolution

    theres also this marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ot/zizek1.htm which isnt as good but at least decently written and better to the point than a lot of his other work

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    Something very eerie about this

  • Jul 4, 2022
    SEGA GOON

    Something very eerie about this

    It's over

  • Jul 4, 2022

    (The good ending)

  • Jul 4, 2022

    I know larouchites going crazy at this

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    GADDAFI BLACK SUPREMACIST

    BLACK PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL IN THE WORLD

    The latest age of slavery has been the enslavement of Blacks by White people. The memory of this age will persist in the thinking of Black people until they have vindicated themselves.

    This tragic and historic event, the resulting bitter feeling, and the yearning or the vindication of a whole race, constitute a psychological motivation of Black people to vengeance and triumph that cannot be disregarded. In addition, the inevitable cycle of social history, which includes the Yellow people's domination of the world when it marched from Asia, and the White people's carrying out a wide-ranging colonialist movement covering all the continents of the world, is now giving way to the re-emergence of Black people.

    Black people are now in a very backward social situation, but such backwardness works to bring about their numerical superiority because their low standard of living has shielded them from methods of birth control and family planning. Also, their old social traditions place no limit on marriages, leading to their accelerated growth. The population of other races has decreased because of birth control, restrictions on marriage, and constant occupation in work, unlike the Blacks, who tend to be less obsessive about work in a climate which is continuously hot.

  • Jul 4, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    GADDAFI BLACK SUPREMACIST

    BLACK PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL IN THE WORLD

    The latest age of slavery has been the enslavement of Blacks by White people. The memory of this age will persist in the thinking of Black people until they have vindicated themselves.

    This tragic and historic event, the resulting bitter feeling, and the yearning or the vindication of a whole race, constitute a psychological motivation of Black people to vengeance and triumph that cannot be disregarded. In addition, the inevitable cycle of social history, which includes the Yellow people's domination of the world when it marched from Asia, and the White people's carrying out a wide-ranging colonialist movement covering all the continents of the world, is now giving way to the re-emergence of Black people.

    Black people are now in a very backward social situation, but such backwardness works to bring about their numerical superiority because their low standard of living has shielded them from methods of birth control and family planning. Also, their old social traditions place no limit on marriages, leading to their accelerated growth. The population of other races has decreased because of birth control, restrictions on marriage, and constant occupation in work, unlike the Blacks, who tend to be less obsessive about work in a climate which is continuously hot.

    gaddafi writing this section:

    fr tho this gotta be the funniest part of the green book because its just shoved in there suddenly and his own family is bedouin arab

    in reality he almost certainly wrote this because he was pissed off the arab islamic republic idea went under and this was the early seeds of him shifting to pan-africanism rather than pan-arabism. While chronologically his pan arab ideas didnt completely flounder yet, I don't think it's a coincidence this came out in 1975 and the arab islamic republic idea failed in 1974

  • Jul 4, 2022
    krishna bound

    gaddafi writing this section:

    fr tho this gotta be the funniest part of the green book because its just shoved in there suddenly and his own family is bedouin arab

    in reality he almost certainly wrote this because he was pissed off the arab islamic republic idea went under and this was the early seeds of him shifting to pan-africanism rather than pan-arabism. While chronologically his pan arab ideas didnt completely flounder yet, I don't think it's a coincidence this came out in 1975 and the arab islamic republic idea failed in 1974

    tfw no communist Union of North Africa

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  • Jul 5, 2022
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    @Cudderwalks have u read this, if not think u would be interested in it just started it myself
    libgen.li/edition.php?id=138029131

  • Jul 5, 2022
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    dudes been buying millions of dollars of real estate in Toronto

    XI really pressed the communism button with this one

  • Jul 5, 2022
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    fun guy
    https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1544184311104131072

    dudes been buying millions of dollars of real estate in Toronto

    XI really pressed the communism button with this one

    Dengist or not..... I can only SALUTE 💯

  • Jul 5, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Dengist or not..... I can only SALUTE 💯

    Chinas boutta develop the productive forces like crazy

  • Jul 5, 2022

    Ukrops

  • Jul 5, 2022
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    been doomerpilled today thinking on the toilet and s***

    is it possible that since the reproduction of ideology is the primary role of ideology, that even agitating is functionally useless in most cases?

    saying this from personal experience although im sure yall have noticed but people who are able to even stumble their way through deprogramming capitalist realism also face in their own ways severe trauma through the shedding of the nice face of the capitalist system.

    in essence there's this nightmare machine that 1. inflicts mass psychic damage to nearly every person incentivized to do something about it - and even to bystanders - and 2. the primary function of the world of ideology that we function inside of is to brainwash and massage the mess of contradictions (and 1.) into us in likely every conceivable and inconceivable way.

    ig what im saying is that there's not much you can do until the larger currents of the base of society change, and to struggle too hard against it is adventurist and overly idealist?

    also could the overt turn since the 70s of every marxist movement into even recognizing some need for a struggle to study the superstructure be related? in that whether conscious or not, the lack of the capability to navigate a clear path to revolution resulted in all this effort being spent scrutinizing mostly philosophical minutiae. like what's the point in refining the "purest" line when there's other s*** to be done; the answer being that there isn't s*** to be done so why not spend countless hours refining your line or something like that

    as u can tell i dont really give a s*** but this is the only place where these thoughts will be remotely registered as the thoughts of a coherent person

    also krishna or goon when u read this recommend me something that talks about this s***

  • Jul 5, 2022
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    deadacc

    been doomerpilled today thinking on the toilet and s***

    is it possible that since the reproduction of ideology is the primary role of ideology, that even agitating is functionally useless in most cases?

    saying this from personal experience although im sure yall have noticed but people who are able to even stumble their way through deprogramming capitalist realism also face in their own ways severe trauma through the shedding of the nice face of the capitalist system.

    in essence there's this nightmare machine that 1. inflicts mass psychic damage to nearly every person incentivized to do something about it - and even to bystanders - and 2. the primary function of the world of ideology that we function inside of is to brainwash and massage the mess of contradictions (and 1.) into us in likely every conceivable and inconceivable way.

    ig what im saying is that there's not much you can do until the larger currents of the base of society change, and to struggle too hard against it is adventurist and overly idealist?

    also could the overt turn since the 70s of every marxist movement into even recognizing some need for a struggle to study the superstructure be related? in that whether conscious or not, the lack of the capability to navigate a clear path to revolution resulted in all this effort being spent scrutinizing mostly philosophical minutiae. like what's the point in refining the "purest" line when there's other s*** to be done; the answer being that there isn't s*** to be done so why not spend countless hours refining your line or something like that

    as u can tell i dont really give a s*** but this is the only place where these thoughts will be remotely registered as the thoughts of a coherent person

    also krishna or goon when u read this recommend me something that talks about this s***

    On this:

    also could the overt turn since the 70s of every marxist movement into even recognizing some need for a struggle to study the superstructure be related? in that whether conscious or not, the lack of the capability to navigate a clear path to revolution resulted in all this effort being spent scrutinizing mostly philosophical minutiae.