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  • Sep 16, 2022
    VA7a

    sumn i wrote for class

    (On my father)His entire life the constraints of capitalism have hindered him but he has continued to overwork himself because that is what capitalism does to our condition. It makes overworking seem like a good issue to have because of how resilient one may be; but it is depriving one of true freedom in exchange for servitude to the Bourgouise.
    This depressing reality is one we all accept once we become active participants in capitalist society. We work for a company where we have no personal ties, for a job that may be completely impersonal to you for a check that barely covers your rent. Without collective power over the bourgeois, this oppression will continue to hold dominion over the proletariat.

    I read the whole thing to my Grandma (who used to be in the BPP) and she went:
    Yeah I love that. That’s that black militant s***. Power to the people. Black power. I love it. (with a big smile on her face)

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    Lein

    Your mom gave me that ancient mode of suction

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    Once I return to the US I am going to write the longest post on Japanese consumer/alienation culture this website has ever seen

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    @PhilipMorris what’s ur thoughts on the PPW vs October Road line struggle?

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    Womanpuncher69

    @PhilipMorris what’s ur thoughts on the PPW vs October Road line struggle?

    Didn’t know there was an ongoing discussion about that, send me stuff

    Anyways, despite what some people who misunderstand what PPW is (or purposefully try to distort it) PPW is the most viable road to revolution. And contrary to popular belief this holds especially true in imperial centers

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    Sir Real

    Didn’t know there was an ongoing discussion about that, send me stuff

    Anyways, despite what some people who misunderstand what PPW is (or purposefully try to distort it) PPW is the most viable road to revolution. And contrary to popular belief this holds especially true in imperial centers

    damn can’t find it right now, it was the swiss maoist critiquing the germans i think the main topic of the article was on the use of elections.

    my question just mainly comes from meeting some organizers who were affiliated with a international legal movement of the Filipino maoists, and in our discussion he just said he takes the line of in imperialist nation they should take the October road his main reasoning being how can the people here take control of means of production like they did in the PPW and grasp production so you can produce for yourself over the protracted length of the war. aswell for a PPW you need majority of the masses support you that are mainly in rural areas.

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    deadacc

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    deadacc

    f*** guess i’m a trot

  • Sep 16, 2022
    Womanpuncher69
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    damn can’t find it right now, it was the swiss maoist critiquing the germans i think the main topic of the article was on the use of elections.

    my question just mainly comes from meeting some organizers who were affiliated with a international legal movement of the Filipino maoists, and in our discussion he just said he takes the line of in imperialist nation they should take the October road his main reasoning being how can the people here take control of means of production like they did in the PPW and grasp production so you can produce for yourself over the protracted length of the war. aswell for a PPW you need majority of the masses support you that are mainly in rural areas.

    Ah man yeah that’s based on a lot of misconceptions regarding PPW.

    I was actually working on a long piece surrounding these questions a while back but life happened and it got cast to the side, I should probably return to that

    I’ll try to give you the quick and dirty on it after work

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    Womanpuncher69

    @PhilipMorris what’s ur thoughts on the PPW vs October Road line struggle?

    There's no way you'd be allowed to build up through legal means enough power to launch mass insurrections which are then turned into a civil war. Groups like the Black Panther Party were facing immense state attacks and they weren't even close to revolution.

    PPW is the best tactic for revolution even in the imperial core

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    Cudderwalks

    There's no way you'd be allowed to build up through legal means enough power to launch mass insurrections which are then turned into a civil war. Groups like the Black Panther Party were facing immense state attacks and they weren't even close to revolution.

    PPW is the best tactic for revolution even in the imperial core

    appreciate the response but based on the discussion that i mentioned in the other post another critique he had of PPW is that proponents of PPW often fail to describe how it would be carried out in concrete terms, like here you describe why the October road isn’t correct but fail to bring the reasoning why a PPW would be correct

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    Womanpuncher69

    appreciate the response but based on the discussion that i mentioned in the other post another critique he had of PPW is that proponents of PPW often fail to describe how it would be carried out in concrete terms, like here you describe why the October road isn’t correct but fail to bring the reasoning why a PPW would be correct

    Let’s just use the US for example, as I said it’s clear to me they won’t allow you to overthrow them by watching as you build up an army through legal means. Also I doubt you are winning a traditional war against the US army unless you have equal firepower.

    A peoples war in the imperial core wouldn’t be fought in the mountains and jungles. Although there would probably be some militias in those areas.

    If you look at a map of most cities the working class neighborhoods tend to surround the city. You’d use urban guerrilla warfare and mass organizations to build base areas in these neighborhoods. To “surround the city.” There the revolutionaries would blend in with the sympathetic masses. As Mao said “guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea.” The government would be faced with the choice of bombing its own citizens and if it did it would be turned into propoganda and further win support to the communist party. These urban guerrillas could destroy infrastructure, raid supplies and slowly chip away at the country. While building up their own power.

  • Sep 16, 2022
    Cudderwalks

    Let’s just use the US for example, as I said it’s clear to me they won’t allow you to overthrow them by watching as you build up an army through legal means. Also I doubt you are winning a traditional war against the US army unless you have equal firepower.

    A peoples war in the imperial core wouldn’t be fought in the mountains and jungles. Although there would probably be some militias in those areas.

    If you look at a map of most cities the working class neighborhoods tend to surround the city. You’d use urban guerrilla warfare and mass organizations to build base areas in these neighborhoods. To “surround the city.” There the revolutionaries would blend in with the sympathetic masses. As Mao said “guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea.” The government would be faced with the choice of bombing its own citizens and if it did it would be turned into propoganda and further win support to the communist party. These urban guerrillas could destroy infrastructure, raid supplies and slowly chip away at the country. While building up their own power.

    This is a large part of my argument as well

    People think “surround the city from the countryside “ is a universal aspect of PPW. When in fact it is a particular aspect meant for semi-colonial, semi-feudal countries. The universal here is the principle of “attack from where we are strong to where the enemy is weak”. In the case of China this was the countryside/city (the particular expression of the universal principle) in the imperial core, this would be like you described, the working class neighborhoods surrounding the city centers

    Will try to write up a longer response to the other points but that’s a big part of it and one of the largest misconceptions about PPW. (This also ties back to peoples poor understanding of dialectics but that’s another story) @Womanpuncher69

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    Landlord who we made fix that AC countered our 2.3k demand with $2.2k

    Truthfully I though we were going to be lucky to get a grand I am honestly shocked

    Big W for these tenants

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    Sir Real

    Landlord who we made fix that AC countered our 2.3k demand with $2.2k

    Truthfully I though we were going to be lucky to get a grand I am honestly shocked

    Big W for these tenants

    Dope, we're trying to get into tenant organizing locally in the next few months

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    Cudderwalks

    Dope, we're trying to get into tenant organizing locally in the next few months

    F*** yeah that’s great to hear. Hmu if you ever want to get a call going and I can give some advice on getting started and stuff. Happy to help, especially for my fellow Maoist comrades.

  • Sep 16, 2022
    krishna bound

    Once I return to the US I am going to write the longest post on Japanese consumer/alienation culture this website has ever seen

    awaiting it

  • Sep 16, 2022
    krishna bound

    Once I return to the US I am going to write the longest post on Japanese consumer/alienation culture this website has ever seen

    also if u could figure out whats up w jcp that would be dope too

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    Sir Real

    F*** yeah that’s great to hear. Hmu if you ever want to get a call going and I can give some advice on getting started and stuff. Happy to help, especially for my fellow Maoist comrades.

    eh let me in on this …

  • Sep 16, 2022
    Womanpuncher69

    eh let me in on this …

    Happy to any time, have done it for a few different groups before. Just shoot me a DM

  • Sep 17, 2022

    !dream socialist revolution

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    Sir Real

    F*** yeah that’s great to hear. Hmu if you ever want to get a call going and I can give some advice on getting started and stuff. Happy to help, especially for my fellow Maoist comrades.

    you're a maoist?

  • Sep 17, 2022
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    Donahuekirb

    you're a maoist?

    Been a Maoist for going on a decade

    It’s inspired everything I do. I don’t think I would have had the courage to say “fuck it I’m going to start a tenants union today” and actually put in the work to make it a reality without Maoism

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    Sir Real

    Been a Maoist for going on a decade

    It’s inspired everything I do. I don’t think I would have had the courage to say “fuck it I’m going to start a tenants union today” and actually put in the work to make it a reality without Maoism

    that’s crazy when u put it that way i only been a Maoist for like a year or maybe 2 i still got a s*** ton to learn