if you say i'm with that gay s*** you're right
it's how i was born and it's how im gon die

This looks goat in dark mode

people just spewing out s*** atp

Thats the thing. im sure there are ppl who stuck to the OG mgtow meaning. But i feel like the redpill s*** infiltrated it

i cant tell if thats srsly an argument or if dis thread already goin off rails

This

STAY 🥶COLD🥶

It’s funny how the ones calling everyone “snowflakes” don’t have the strength to simply ignore s*** that they don’t agree with. Like other ppls lifestyles should not have you this pressed my man.

It’s not even an argument it’s an observable phenomenon

loser: women don’t like me because all they want is Chad

Mgtow: I don’t deal with women because all they want is Chad and they’ll take my money in divorce

The point is that you're just demonizing men because they're looking out for their best interests.

🤔

A lot of the rhetoric/statistics may come across delusional but it's based on their life experiences.

These communities are made to help men better themselves...

How is that hard to understand?

Both sides are a cancer.

The internet was a mistake.

Just blow this whole thing up.

Gee I wonder what MGTOW types will turn into if they’re already disgruntled with women and hang out with a bunch of other men disgruntled with women

I’m sure they’ll find someone for them eventually and won’t continue to become more alienated towards women

yeah absolutely
but at least a few years ago, people in mgtow didn't respect redpill or loser ideas cus their thing was just that you shouldn't be wasting time getting upset with thinkin bout whatever ur woes w/ women are. who knows if that's a good idea in isolation either -- not the point tho

i think ur right that redpill got a bit more uhhhhhhhh i dunno, not mainstream, but popular? secretly popular? idk what the right way to describe it would be. but it got bigger than mgtow n became popular like "loser" did

so perhaps that shift in popularity did affect og mgtow ideas

they just want attention mostly

Looking out for their own best interests would be dropping those views and revaluation of life outlook

So there's nothing positive about striving to be the best version of yourself?

ok well then it's also an observable phenomenon that mgtow isn't a feeder tube to loser culture since there r people who dont later take on ideas stereotyped as 'loser'

i get the argument of proximity and inclination. but that doesn't make for a strong case that mgtow and loser is the same thing

That’s not what MGTOW is

whole movement is literally named after leaving woman alone

Both niggas need to get curbstomped