Spotify forever goat'd over Apple Music off the simple fact that Spotify offers their subscription with a student deal that includes Hulu for the low.
Going from rap genius to genius lol
Loser ass move glad it’s failing
I miss when it was rap genius
Spotify is anti-hiphop
Bunch of euros who don't give 2 f***s about rap or musicians, the main ones pushing slop and algorithms over art, the main ones trying to phase out artists in favor of podcasters and AI
Them sinking their tentacles into one of the gateways of fans who actually like the culture, sampling, is a bad thing lmaooo
Don't mean to be a radical but can we possibly luigi mangioni Spotify CEO?
Honestly music to me is more sacred than the Epstein files or whatever the f***
This is just another example of the classic morality question: “is it wrong to steal food if your family is starving?”
Of course it isn’t. But if you’re going to do that, just understand and be aware of the risks that come with doing that.
Same thing with uncleared samples
That’s between the artist and the artist they sampled
If a song starts making serious money then yes I think you should work out a deal. Sting taking almost 90% of the profits from Lucid Dreams is absolutely ridiculous tho. That stream of money would not even exist without Juice and Nick
I don’t think it’s ridiculous if they sampled it and the song blew and still never reached out to him if that was the case.
Just shows they were gana run with all the money anyways
This is just another example of the classic morality question: “is it wrong to steal food if your family is starving?”
Of course it isn’t. But if you’re going to do that, just understand and be aware of the risks that come with doing that.
Same thing with uncleared samples
Sting had said his grandchildren is able to get through college off Juice Wrld sampling his song. He was starving and now he's EATING
The OG producers were dealing with an entirely different set of circumstances than producers are today, plus we have decades of knowledge about copyright law and sampling laws at our fingertips that those early hip-hop didn’t have
I’m not against smaller artists releasing uncleared samples
All I’m saying is that if you’re doing that in 2025, you should be well aware of the risks that come with it
Sample snitching is not a real concept. If an artist is sampling obscure records, those records should be acknowledged
I should be more clear that I’m only referencing underground artists here for the most part. Going and reporting an uncleared sample for a f***ing Boldy James song is goofy as hell imo (side note: I actually know the sample to Hot Water Tank and no ones reported it yet lol)
I think a major label artist not clearing a sample is ridiculous, Like what Travis did with that song on JB2
But another problem is how much people want now for samples to be cleared. This is why Danny went into debt with his label over AE. Mid tier artists could never afford to make something like The Blueprint or College Dropout now
I don’t think it’s ridiculous if they sampled it and the song blew and still never reached out to him if that was the case.
Just shows they were gana run with all the money anyways
That specific case is because Nick didn’t understand how the system worked
He didn’t technically sample stings song. He replayed the sample and thought interpolating it didn’t count as sampling but you still have to get it cleared
Spotify forever goat'd over Apple Music off the simple fact that Spotify offers their subscription with a student deal that includes Hulu for the low.
hulu with ads tho 
apple music comes with apple tv no ads
spotify still goated for playlists tho
hulu with ads tho 
apple music comes with apple tv no ads
spotify still goated for playlists tho
and then to make it worse Hulu ads come on at the wrong(right?)time when exciting stuff is happening in a show
but Hulu has more variety to choose from with their library over apple tv
That specific case is because Nick didn’t understand how the system worked
He didn’t technically sample stings song. He replayed the sample and thought interpolating it didn’t count as sampling but you still have to get it cleared
Bet I get you. I’m not against underground artist sampling but can’t they just sample all they want if they’re not making money off of it. Wasn’t that the point of mixtapes , it was free music
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop from DOOM music getting as big as it is. If his work gets featured in Marvel and then the sampled artists come after his estate that would be crazy
I should be more clear that I’m only referencing underground artists here for the most part. Going and reporting an uncleared sample for a f***ing Boldy James song is goofy as hell imo (side note: I actually know the sample to Hot Water Tank and no ones reported it yet lol)
I think a major label artist not clearing a sample is ridiculous, Like what Travis did with that song on JB2
But another problem is how much people want now for samples to be cleared. This is why Danny went into debt with his label over AE. Mid tier artists could never afford to make something like The Blueprint or College Dropout now
That’s fair
For f***ing what?? They bout to charge a subscription to look up sample history?
The OG producers were dealing with an entirely different set of circumstances than producers are today, plus we have decades of knowledge about copyright law and sampling laws at our fingertips that those early hip-hop didn’t have
I’m not against smaller artists releasing uncleared samples
All I’m saying is that if you’re doing that in 2025, you should be well aware of the risks that come with it
Sample snitching is not a real concept. If an artist is sampling obscure records, those records should be acknowledged
Sample snitching is a real concept and no they shouldn’t be acknowledged
Bet I get you. I’m not against underground artist sampling but can’t they just sample all they want if they’re not making money off of it. Wasn’t that the point of mixtapes , it was free music
Streaming kinda killed that tho
For f***ing what?? They bout to charge a subscription to look up sample history?
Integrate the sample database with the streaming library and automate the process to catch uncleared samples
Streaming kinda killed that tho
Not really. I think streaming made uncleared samples on albums more common. Alc doesn’t clear samples for the most part same with Madlib
That’s fair
I also wanted to add that “sample snitching” is technically a real thing and the reason so many underground sample based producers are against it is because they actually get hit with lawsuits
There’s a whole bunch of scummy lawyers who wait for stuff to get posted on WhoSampled so they can contact who ever has the rights to the song being sampled and make a quick buck
Integrate the sample database with the streaming library and automate the process to catch uncleared samples
F***ing Swede rats
Not really. I think streaming made uncleared samples on albums more common. Alc doesn’t clear samples for the most part same with Madlib
I think he meant streaming killed mixtapes
Which makes it harder for people to listen to free music if they cant upload uncleared samples on these DSPs
I should be more clear that I’m only referencing underground artists here for the most part. Going and reporting an uncleared sample for a f***ing Boldy James song is goofy as hell imo (side note: I actually know the sample to Hot Water Tank and no ones reported it yet lol)
I think a major label artist not clearing a sample is ridiculous, Like what Travis did with that song on JB2
But another problem is how much people want now for samples to be cleared. This is why Danny went into debt with his label over AE. Mid tier artists could never afford to make something like The Blueprint or College Dropout now
I dont think Boldy James is a good example. His catalogue has generated at least over a million dollars. Hot Water Tank has over 8million streams on Spotify alone
I agree that more underground artists sampling songs isnt really a problem if they arent really profiting off it and its on YouTube or Soundcloud
Sample snitching is a real concept and no they shouldn’t be acknowledged
No it’s not and yes they should be
I also wanted to add that “sample snitching” is technically a real thing and the reason so many underground sample based producers are against it is because they actually get hit with lawsuits
There’s a whole bunch of scummy lawyers who wait for stuff to get posted on WhoSampled so they can contact who ever has the rights to the song being sampled and make a quick buck
It’s real in that regard yes but when this conversation comes up that’s usually not the context in which it’s happening
If music fans are talking about what a song’s samples are out of appreciation for the OG songs, that’s not snitching
If they were sitting here selling the samples to lawyers so that they could sue the artist, that’s a different story