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  • Aug 21, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    they making metacritic accounts

    school shooter type activity

    Let’s hope the review bombs keep these angry individuals happy and give them a sense of importance so they don’t actually harm innocent people

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Kr0niic

    “ no one would say Netflix or hbo max are consumer friendly”??

    Fam these streaming services are VERY consumer friendly and generous for what they offer for the price

    Streaming services are not consumer friendly at all but I digress. Anything that does not include ownership of property is not consumer friendly and only accelerates the eventual decline of ownership. Digital is also a huge issue for this (PS5 digital, Series S, etc). What you mean is "better than cable," which is a literal turd.

  • Aug 21, 2023
    NG

    school shooter type activity

    Let’s hope the review bombs keep these angry individuals happy and give them a sense of importance so they don’t actually harm innocent people

    Review bombs will get sorted out by Metacritic, they've been pretty good about that recently. On Steam is a different story but PC players dgaf about this s*** and you need to actually own the game to review on Steam. Game will be just fine. Prob the 2nd biggest game of the year.

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Everything

    Game Pass isn't a consumer friendly play lol. Nobody would say Netflix or HBO Max are consumer friendly. None of the 3 manufacturers are even close to approaching consumer friendly. MS literally just increased the price of their machine. This is console war nonsense man. Just do some quick napkin math on what the opportunity cost of eliminating their XBL subscription and think for 10 seconds if they could possibly claw back enough market share to make up for that cost. They introduced Game Pass during a 2:1 generation and are staring down the barrel of a 3:1 generation. They need a marketing shift first and foremost, particularly in non-US regions. Xbox may as well not exist in Europe and Japan.

    Yes people would say Netflix and HBO Max are consumer friendly. Do you know how much having cable and HBO used to cost monthly vs an internet connection and Max? The ability to have the content on your phone, computer and anywhere vs cable is by definition consumer friendly. Netflix used to have to send you a disc. Again to be able to have that amount of content for one set price and access it anywhere is consumer friendly.

    "Xbox may as well not exist in europe and japan"

    oh you literally dont know what you are talking about . My fault have a good night

    gamesindustry.biz/european-console-and-pc-game-sales-fall-71-over-2021

    famitsu.com/news/202301/11289112.html

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Because of PC growth. Should've made it clear I'm talking about in the context of the console. Their marketshare in the console space has decreased since Game Pass introduction, too.

    well no s*** because gamepass isn't locked to console and they don't do console exclusivity. Which is again also consumer friendly

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Aug 21, 2023
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    Bro pulling out Microsoft financials in the starfield thread

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Everything

    Streaming services are not consumer friendly at all but I digress. Anything that does not include ownership of property is not consumer friendly and only accelerates the eventual decline of ownership. Digital is also a huge issue for this (PS5 digital, Series S, etc). What you mean is "better than cable," which is a literal turd.

    We don't own our games in many cases you need internet to boot the game at any time the rights of the game or your account can be taken away.

    you cant boot most physical games without a day 1 patch .

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Aug 21, 2023

    Only Microsoft games man 😭😭 Sony exclusive thread never seen a Q1 report pulled out

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Kr0niic

    Bro pulling out Microsoft financials in the starfield thread

    "game ownership is going down"

    We literally cant play playstation 1-3 on the ps5 . Who knows what excuse they will make for no backwards compatibility on ps6

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    Yes people would say Netflix and HBO Max are consumer friendly. Do you know how much having cable and HBO used to cost monthly vs an internet connection and Max? The ability to have the content on your phone, computer and anywhere vs cable is by definition consumer friendly. Netflix used to have to send you a disc. Again to be able to have that amount of content for one set price and access it anywhere is consumer friendly.

    "Xbox may as well not exist in europe and japan"

    oh you literally dont know what you are talking about . My fault have a good night

    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/european-console-and-pc-game-sales-fall-71-over-2021

    https://www.famitsu.com/news/202301/11289112.html

    twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1689628582241247232?s=20 how is this healthy when their direct competitor is nearly half of the market in their 2nd biggest region.

    PS5 was up 283% in Italy. Switch was down -8%. Xbox was down -23%. This is what I mean by they may as well not exist. It looks like this all across Europe. XBS is pushing a little over 1k units a week in Japan bro.

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    but focus on the point. You say streaming services are not consumer friendly but in no way have explained why. Just because you are subscribed to a streaming service doesn't mean you cant still BUY whatever you want to BUY. It just allows you to try it or play it all for a set price. I can still BUY seinfeld physical if I want or I can watch it for one set price

    You can simply admit you are wrong.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Aug 21, 2023

    Bro pulling out global market performance 😭😭

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    "game ownership is going down"

    We literally cant play playstation 1-3 on the ps5 . Who knows what excuse they will make for no backwards compatibility on ps6

    And that s*** is f***ing dogshit, too. Reason why that happened? Because Sony internals showed people didn't play old games on their machine. What you think they're gonna do when digital share is over 70-80% bro?

  • Aug 21, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    We don't own our games in many cases you need internet to boot the game at any time the rights of the game or your account can be taken away.

    you cant boot most physical games without a day 1 patch .

    I wonder how we got there

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1689628582241247232?s=20 how is this healthy when their direct competitor is nearly half of the market in their 2nd biggest region.

    PS5 was up 283% in Italy. Switch was down -8%. Xbox was down -23%. This is what I mean by they may as well not exist. It looks like this all across Europe. XBS is pushing a little over 1k units a week in Japan bro.

    you said they might as well not exist I posted an article where their sales are doing well. I didn't compare to ps5. I am not starting a brain dead console war bullshit with you. I am saying they are doing well for their goals. do your braindead console war bullshit elsewhere

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    but focus on the point. You say streaming services are not consumer friendly but in no way have explained why. Just because you are subscribed to a streaming service doesn't mean you cant still BUY whatever you want to BUY. It just allows you to try it or play it all for a set price. I can still BUY seinfeld physical if I want or I can watch it for one set price

    You can simply admit you are wrong.

    You're thinking so small about this lol. Yes, people can still buy media -- TODAY. And for a ton of new shows and movies YOU LITERALLY ALREADY CANNOT BUY THEM due to the prominence of streaming. They become lost media as soon as Netflix or HBO decide they are.

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    And that s*** is f***ing dogshit, too. Reason why that happened? Because Sony internals showed people didn't play old games on their machine. What you think they're gonna do when digital share is over 70-80% bro?

    their internals didn't show s*** they know they can sell remasters and remakes over and over again. They know they can sell classics ps1 and ps2 . Even ones we have already purchased before.That is inherently not consumer friendly is my point vs a subscription service that allows you to play whatever. Demon Souls remake was a launch game.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Aug 21, 2023
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    Wait till bro learns about steam

  • Aug 21, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    you said they might as well not exist I posted an article where their sales are doing well. I didn't compare to ps5. I am not starting a brain dead console war bullshit with you. I am saying they are doing well for their goals. do your braindead console war bullshit elsewhere

    This isn't even console war bro, I own every console and have Starfield pre-ordered. The current state of the market isn't healthy.

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Kr0niic

    Wait till bro learns about steam

    The loss of physical PC media due to the rise of Steam is also bullshit lol

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Everything

    You're thinking so small about this lol. Yes, people can still buy media -- TODAY. And for a ton of new shows and movies YOU LITERALLY ALREADY CANNOT BUY THEM due to the prominence of streaming. They become lost media as soon as Netflix or HBO decide they are.

    Is there great examples of game pass doing that ?
    Do you know steam exist?

    is the ability to play a game and decide you dont want to spend 70$ on it not consumer friendly?

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Everything

    The loss of physical PC media due to the rise of Steam is also bullshit lol

    many laptops dont even have disc drives

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Aug 21, 2023
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    Steam and Microsoft offer refunds on digital products

    Sony doesn’t

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    Not everyone wants physicals of tv shows, music, movies and games. No one is removing the option for you to do so . You still have the option. There is nothing not consumer friendly about that. The end

  • Aug 21, 2023
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    HaroldsChicken

    Is there great examples of game pass doing that ?
    Do you know steam exist?

    is the ability to play a game and decide you dont want to spend 70$ on it not consumer friendly?

    There weren't examples of this happening with TV and movies until it did. You can live in a fantasy land about the loss of media accessibility and ownership all you want. We're losing this battle already with TV and movies and it won't be long til we're losing it here, too.

    Steam eliminating physical releases of PC games also f***ing sucks d***. What happens if Steam dies?