i used to not really f*** w socialism either but doing some research i think there's a lot of interesting possibilities they've come up with that can be taken from the ideology and from what you're saying there's a lot you'd agree with.

you don't have to become a "socialist" but it never hurts to hear something out and take what you want from it.

This is why we can’t get s*** done, we get too busy arguing theory and rhetoric

I get that,

There's still just a whole lot of operating inside oppressive patriarchal and capitalist structures that still might end up going on if only having private property as the goal

"a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

So where does the definition of socialism depart from what you're thinking of? Or are you equating it to communism and not differentiating between the two?

U think nobody should discuss economics? or are u mad more people are advocating for some form of socialism ITT than you're comfortable with

Discussion is necessary lol this is the internet what else u want to do

I don’t condone violence unless it’s in defense however i do feel that driving large corporations from our communities is self defense seeing that they exploit blacks and Latinos for labor

Socialism isn’t the answer to all of our problems
Black people are the poorest people in thenation. We got the worse schools, infrastructure everything. The solution to that isn’t going and taking someone else’s. It’s gaining our own wealth and investing in ourselves and defending that investment by any means necessary

Y’all are saying let’s take from the man
I’m saying let’s become our own man

Op on to something. The only time the NRA has ever been anti-gun was when the panthers had ak15s at the California capital

We should build our own schools in our communities and pay taxes in our community

Agreed

I agree w that,

I think taxes should go more towards education, health, and uplifting communities regardless, a reallocation of money to really benefit people instead of a military industrial complex and other wastes of money

I just think there's also value to having elements of the ultra-wealthy paying their fair share to benefit those who they're making money off of

Not saying u wrong at all, just theres elements of socialism in that solution as well,

Not as like a universal thing that conquers every aspect of life like it feels like u saying it is

You can’t just create something from a vacuum though. To make something of your own you have to take from others. That’s how capitalism works.

Your thinking too big. Ignore the military industrial complex, ignore everything that doesn’t involve lifting up our people. You think Bezos wakes up in the morning thinking about the MIC

No country has found the perfect economic system,

But I'll tell y'all right now, unequivocally, in the United States? This ain't it.

We have to build up a formidable fighting force first

U feelin like a Black Bezos would balance s*** out?

Nah that much power will f*** anyone up regardless

I will give you the fact that I am looking at it from asking "What caused these economic disparities in the first place?"

And thinking better wealth distribution overall would solve some of these problems,

But for sure, it is very important where folks put their money. Buying from black-owned businesses, and locally, and reinvesting in the community as much as possible is definitely the move,

This requires a certain sense of desire for the collective good in said community

But I think any system of profiting off of low wages, not paying taxes, and employees not having any type of ownership is bad no matter what community it exists in

That's why I'm saying the capitalist structures in place for large corporations to get away with wack s*** only serves a select few people and that's why I focus on what I'm focusing on

No but hes an example of the wealth capitalism creates. Now imagine a community of black people with that wealth or even more paying taxes toward our schools, our infrastructure, our healthcare. All Im saying is we should be self reliant instead of relying on someone else to feed, employ, or protect us.

A society within a society

Its like killer mike said, if we make 15% of the population
We should make 15% of wallstreet

A big part of my argument has been that these big corporations ought to be paying their share in taxes to help communities they're profiting off of,

And yes ideally everyone has enough resources to be self-reliant, you're strangely close to what I think most other people are leaning toward

Maybe have our own country/autonomous region established

That asking for too much
Just play by the rules and get yours(ours) its not that hard

The rules are set up f***ed up though lol

segregation was a rule,

stop and frisk was a rule slavery was a rule

sometimes playing by the rules is f***ed up

not to be extreme about it