These charts are f***in crazy. Jesus Christ.
What's even more absurd is when you realize how much meat is wasted in western cultures after the chickens are slaughtered for meat (especially the US). We don't even eat the entire chicken. It's basically just breast-thigh-wings. The rest of the meat is literally just thrown away half the time. Meanwhile virtually everywhere else in the world (esp. Asia, Africa, etc.) they eat everything else; head, heart, gizzards (to be fair they do that in the south in the US), kidney, liver, even the feet. So not only are these many chickens being slaughtered by half the chciken is often wasted each time.
Salmonella rly the WOAT bacteria name
Shyt sounds like seafood dipping sauce
Was listening to jalen and jacoby a while back and jalen called it salamander poisoning
i didn't vote for trump but i don't see how he could've done a worse job than biden is now :
Probably would’ve supported his buddy Vlad
PHYSICAL THERAPIST KATIE CLICK doing it for me mmm
That’s crazy tho good thing I don’t fw any of that processed chicken and all that bs
Campylobacter is a disease that can cause severe nerve damage and possibly death and is caused by bacteria found in chicken. It is tested for in many of the known plants that produce and sell chicken, however many of those plants have exceeded the limit of what is allowed since 2018-2019.
Pretty much it's yucky bacteria and germs in our meat and we been casually consuming them for years.
Doesn’t the bacteria die when cooking chicken on high heat?
Doesn’t the bacteria die when cooking chicken on high heat?
Yes, but people be having chicken be pink in the middle
Yes, but people be having chicken be pink in the middle
Oh nah, I cook my chicken thoroughly
PHYSICAL THERAPIST KATIE CLICK doing it for me mmm
That’s crazy tho good thing I don’t fw any of that processed chicken and all that bs
Might need to catch salmonella one time
It's not like veggies mixed with pesticides are the saving grace of all life as well
The entire food industry is s***.
Yes but if you've ever seen factory farm conditions, it is literally the most reprehensible thing I've ever seen. How awful meat production is and how badly they treat animals kept.
Vegetable cultivation isn't sunshine and rainbows, but it's a lot better than that of the meat and adjacent industries. Though there are a lot of problems, I agree.
You can also cultivate veggies and fruits to a certain degree on your own, and participate in community farms that are much more transparent and beneficial than a local producer of meat and meat adjacent products.
That being said I'm not a vegan or anything but I desperately want to change my outlook.
Live by the 10 piece, die by the 10 piece
@op
reminds me specifically of charts such as this which highlight why this stuff is such a problem


the amount of chicken consumed is not only absurd increases yearly at a virtually unsustainable rate. in order to keep up with this demand, especially in light of the fact the amount of chicken demanded is basically unsustainable, we've put ourselves in this situation where chickens are not only literal hormonal mutants barely qualifying as living organisms but they are treated in factories with the same quality and safety overview as if they were making high demand items like paper or other commodities.
definitely agree, and while veganism is objectively correct, the most important thing here for humanity and the world at large is to bring meat production and consumption to regularly sustainable levels.
jia.sipa.columbia.edu/removing-meat-subsidy-our-cognitive-dissonance-around-animal-agriculture
the whole thing would be extremely easy to implement too and it currently only helps plump up decrepit oligarchs
"According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6 Most agricultural subsidies go to farmers of livestock and a handful of major crops, including corn, soybeans, wheat, rice, and cotton, with payments skewed toward the largest producers. Corn and soy inputs, in particular, are heavily subsidized crops for the production of meat and processed food by some of the world’s largest meat and dairy corporations. These farm subsidy programs supplement adverse fluctuations in revenues and production, and purchase farmers’ insurance coverage, product marketing, export sales, and research and development.7 This means that while shoppers pay lower immediate prices at the checkout counter, their tax dollars fund major meat operations and advertising. Meanwhile, meat and dairy producers accrue yearly retail sales to the tune of 250 billion dollars.8
In addition to subsidies, Americans pay for meat consumption through healthcare costs and climate disruption. As David Simon illustrates in his book Meatonomics, consumers foot an estimated $2 in external costs for every $1 of product the meat and dairy industry sells.9 In other words, a $4 Big Mac actually costs society $11.
The impact of meat consumption isn’t limited to America’s borders. Take for instance the findings of a recent report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN (FAO), which states that agricultural subsidies in economically advanced countries such as the U.S. artificially depress international market prices, so much that they induce poorer nations to import food that local farmers could otherwise produce more efficiently.10 These farmers are then forced to exit the market because they can’t afford to grow local crops, much less put food on the table for their families. The FAO reports that eliminating agricultural subsidies in the U.S. alone would lift millions of people out of poverty around the world. In contrast, American meat subsidies have spurred the average U.S. citizen to consume about 200 pounds of meat a year, more than twice the global average and nearly twice as much as Americans ate in 1961.11 "
and the ecological impact of chicken is worse than beef and pork as the number of chickens required to grow to maturity is a multitude higher to produce an equivalent mass of meat. but like you said the problem is scale, and even lab grown meat would still leave enormous ecological waste at this scale
Yes but if you've ever seen factory farm conditions, it is literally the most reprehensible thing I've ever seen. How awful meat production is and how badly they treat animals kept.
Vegetable cultivation isn't sunshine and rainbows, but it's a lot better than that of the meat and adjacent industries. Though there are a lot of problems, I agree.
You can also cultivate veggies and fruits to a certain degree on your own, and participate in community farms that are much more transparent and beneficial than a local producer of meat and meat adjacent products.
That being said I'm not a vegan or anything but I desperately want to change my outlook.
ive been slowly decreasing my meat consumption over the past few months and last month i started fully eating no meat and its been going great
the key is you really got to figure out how to eat deliciously without needing meat. like i dont even miss it cuz the food i eat is even better than what i used to be eating
definitely agree, and while veganism is objectively correct, the most important thing here for humanity and the world at large is to bring meat production and consumption to regularly sustainable levels.
https://jia.sipa.columbia.edu/removing-meat-subsidy-our-cognitive-dissonance-around-animal-agriculture
the whole thing would be extremely easy to implement too and it currently only helps plump up decrepit oligarchs
"According to recent studies, the U.S. government spends up to $38 billion each year to subsidize the meat and dairy industries, with less than one percent of that sum allocated to aiding the production of fruits and vegetables.6 Most agricultural subsidies go to farmers of livestock and a handful of major crops, including corn, soybeans, wheat, rice, and cotton, with payments skewed toward the largest producers. Corn and soy inputs, in particular, are heavily subsidized crops for the production of meat and processed food by some of the world’s largest meat and dairy corporations. These farm subsidy programs supplement adverse fluctuations in revenues and production, and purchase farmers’ insurance coverage, product marketing, export sales, and research and development.7 This means that while shoppers pay lower immediate prices at the checkout counter, their tax dollars fund major meat operations and advertising. Meanwhile, meat and dairy producers accrue yearly retail sales to the tune of 250 billion dollars.8
In addition to subsidies, Americans pay for meat consumption through healthcare costs and climate disruption. As David Simon illustrates in his book Meatonomics, consumers foot an estimated $2 in external costs for every $1 of product the meat and dairy industry sells.9 In other words, a $4 Big Mac actually costs society $11.
The impact of meat consumption isn’t limited to America’s borders. Take for instance the findings of a recent report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN (FAO), which states that agricultural subsidies in economically advanced countries such as the U.S. artificially depress international market prices, so much that they induce poorer nations to import food that local farmers could otherwise produce more efficiently.10 These farmers are then forced to exit the market because they can’t afford to grow local crops, much less put food on the table for their families. The FAO reports that eliminating agricultural subsidies in the U.S. alone would lift millions of people out of poverty around the world. In contrast, American meat subsidies have spurred the average U.S. citizen to consume about 200 pounds of meat a year, more than twice the global average and nearly twice as much as Americans ate in 1961.11 "
and the ecological impact of chicken is worse than beef and pork as the number of chickens required to grow to maturity is a multitude higher to produce an equivalent mass of meat. but like you said the problem is scale, and even lab grown meat would still leave enormous ecological waste at this scale
I'm not necessarily 100% anti-meat overall, i don't think eating meat is bad inherently, but general cultural excess and how that is reflected in both food waste and inhumane and industrial level farming. Meat waste is definitely something I'm very big on the ridiculousness of and how this is reflected in the overly indulgent and wasteful culture of the west (and how this leads to looking down on cultures that aren't wasteful as if they're the ones being savages by not wasting meat). Industrial farming especially through the usage and implementations of shortcuts, hormones, chemicals, and other hazards is something that's going to bite this generation in the ass in a few decades the same way things like tobacco and pharmaceuticals bit boomers in the ass "unexpectedly".
lmaoooo idk about all that. i did actually read the article tho and apparently this s*** been happening a lot since 2015???
been know that 90% of meats when tested contain fecal matter
no surprise they got some other nasty s*** in em
I'm not necessarily 100% anti-meat overall, i don't think eating meat is bad inherently, but general cultural excess and how that is reflected in both food waste and inhumane and industrial level farming. Meat waste is definitely something I'm very big on the ridiculousness of and how this is reflected in the overly indulgent and wasteful culture of the west (and how this leads to looking down on cultures that aren't wasteful as if they're the ones being savages by not wasting meat). Industrial farming especially through the usage and implementations of shortcuts, hormones, chemicals, and other hazards is something that's going to bite this generation in the ass in a few decades the same way things like tobacco and pharmaceuticals bit boomers in the ass "unexpectedly".
about a hundred million different things gon bite all of humanities ass in a couple decades and we will spiral into complete and utter collapse "unexpectedly"
about a hundred million different things gon bite all of humanities ass in a couple decades and we will spiral into complete and utter collapse "unexpectedly"
definitely agree, was just naming one of them topically
Damn I just had Chick-fil-A yesterday and that s*** slapped
S*** had me shook till I saw this s*** from 2015 lmao
Man f*** it
ive been slowly decreasing my meat consumption over the past few months and last month i started fully eating no meat and its been going great
the key is you really got to figure out how to eat deliciously without needing meat. like i dont even miss it cuz the food i eat is even better than what i used to be eating
It's tough because a lot of our culture is dictated by meat and it's hard to move away from it in a social setting. Plus I f***ing love eating burgers and s*** lol
But even past the concern of the animals' wellbeing and environmental issues, I find myself getting more and more sickened when eating meat on a personal level. I just hope I can slowly wean off of it.