it's almost like BLM's clear lack of genuine message and organization, combined with clear smear tactics and propaganda, wasn't made to be sustainable
Blm came out during Ferguson and the f*** have they done since then? I’d argue Kaepernick as a whole was more impactful than them at any point.
i get not fw the organization but the message is clear. isn’t that what really matters ?
the thing is, a lot of white people think BLM is some race war type s*** when it’s literally just a movement against police brutality on black people
i mean do u mean BLM the organization or just the mantra black lives matter lol i feel this isn’t really made clear
Not the org, the movement
Not the org, the movement
i'm pretty sure it's about the organization
the study that 538 takes its info from stuff has dis chart on its page
which is kinda odd cus 1 it shows white ppl got 50% trust in blm (even tho 538 says it peaked at a lower number), 2 the question frames BLM as a "group" as opposed to a movement. i can only infer that the ppl were asked in a way that also reflected that distinction
why 538 kept saying it was about the "movement", though, i dunno. maybe i missed a different graph that they were pulling that info from, maybe this is just political spark
different topic, it's weird that this study had 8x as many white people as it did black; trying to speculate the changing views of "americans" while sampling only ~1000 people is silly on its own, but to then try to represent a "black american's" opinion w/ only 121 of them being asked questions verges on "this study is stupid statistics" territory
i'm pretty sure it's about the organization
the study that 538 takes its info from stuff has dis chart on its page
which is kinda odd cus 1 it shows white ppl got 50% trust in blm (even tho 538 says it peaked at a lower number), 2 the question frames BLM as a "group" as opposed to a movement. i can only infer that the ppl were asked in a way that also reflected that distinction
why 538 kept saying it was about the "movement", though, i dunno. maybe i missed a different graph that they were pulling that info from, maybe this is just political spark
different topic, it's weird that this study had 8x as many white people as it did black; trying to speculate the changing views of "americans" while sampling only ~1000 people is silly on its own, but to then try to represent a "black american's" opinion w/ only 121 of them being asked questions verges on "this study is stupid statistics" territory
I think it just says groups in the chart not cause they're actual groups but just cause that's the statistical group. Hence why biden, trump, and protestors are also there.
And the first thought when someone says Black lives matter isn't the org it's the movement, which also explains why they only make references to blm as the movement in the article.
Also support for BLM amongst black people grew compare to white people who are most likely not privy to the s*** the org has done.
this stupid b**** don’t give a f***
she says some of the dumbest s***
funny how people who support the party of "accountability" dont want any accountability for cops
funny how people who support the party of "accountability" dont want any accountability for cops
ofc they want them to be shocktroopers for the state
this stupid b**** don’t give a f***
she says some of the dumbest s***
I don’t know why she even cares doesnt she live in NYC in cozy apartment or some s***
I think it just says groups in the chart not cause they're actual groups but just cause that's the statistical group. Hence why biden, trump, and protestors are also there.
And the first thought when someone says Black lives matter isn't the org it's the movement, which also explains why they only make references to blm as the movement in the article.
Also support for BLM amongst black people grew compare to white people who are most likely not privy to the s*** the org has done.
biden/trump/protestors are there cus the question says individuals' or groups'; they're defining the entities as one or the other
and i agree with you about the first-thought thing, but that's what is significant about defining the actors in the polling question, which takes away the associate-blm-with-movement impulse so that the people asked know they're to make a decision based on the group, or who they think comprises the group (this gets into a gray area of whether or not an individual's imagination of a group could end up being synonymous with their idea of the "movement". doesn't seem like any of the study ppl looked into that)
and your last point goes back to my thing about selecting the polled ppl. it isn't useful information to say "black people support this more" based on the responses of 121 people. it's even worse information when the graphs only show percentages, which is what happened here. makes something of really questionable significance look huge
funny how people who support the party of "accountability" dont want any accountability for cops
She is full of s*** also crime is at pretty low at this point of time
this stupid b**** don’t give a f***
she says some of the dumbest s***
She is way too calculated not to realize that the implication there is that not getting charged for killing people was an incentive to become a cop
If you’re against the BLM movement you’re racist sorry. Idgaf about the organization.
BLM the organization def is sus af but you can tell the types who dont like the org from those who just dont like niggas period
biden/trump/protestors are there cus the question says individuals' or groups'; they're defining the entities as one or the other
and i agree with you about the first-thought thing, but that's what is significant about defining the actors in the polling question, which takes away the associate-blm-with-movement impulse so that the people asked know they're to make a decision based on the group, or who they think comprises the group (this gets into a gray area of whether or not an individual's imagination of a group could end up being synonymous with their idea of the "movement". doesn't seem like any of the study ppl looked into that)
and your last point goes back to my thing about selecting the polled ppl. it isn't useful information to say "black people support this more" based on the responses of 121 people. it's even worse information when the graphs only show percentages, which is what happened here. makes something of really questionable significance look huge
I mean a movement itself can still be a group tho by definition.
And like I said BLM the org isn't nearly as known as the movement so I think it's makes more logical sense to assume they're talking bout the movement than the group. I agree they should specify it but the likelihood of it being the org instead of the movement is slim especially when u look at what they're comparing.
Where did u see the number of respondents I couldnt find it
yeah i'm sure all those white USA Today readers had something to say
The only people I see still reading USA Today are crusty old white people who chain smoke cigarettes and spend most of their mornings buying lotto tickets.
I mean a movement itself can still be a group tho by definition.
And like I said BLM the org isn't nearly as known as the movement so I think it's makes more logical sense to assume they're talking bout the movement than the group. I agree they should specify it but the likelihood of it being the org instead of the movement is slim especially when u look at what they're comparing.
Where did u see the number of respondents I couldnt find it
yeah i think unless there's more info about whether or not they did specify the groupings i can agree, cus i do think many who'd say they oppose the "movement" see said movement as a group of people who they don't agree with anyway. i wish they would've been more specific tho, just for accuracy's sake
and ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/usa-today-protests-2020 below all the graphs, 1st paragraph of the "about the study" section
edit: put the wrong study but the other one linked b4 also had a similar demographic makeup, didnt notice tho