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  • Mar 21, 2022
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    axios.com/local/twin-cities/2022/03/21/minneapolis-public-school-strike-key-issues-budget

    Been keeping up with this because my homie is a teacher in St. Paul and has been part of the strike from the start. Apparently it’s not likely that they’re going to come to an agreement anytime soon. Insane that we treat teachers like this as a society… honestly expecting similar strikes to pop up across the country in coming months as we approach the summer.

  • Mar 21, 2022
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    Public schools do not directly make ultra wealthy people more rich

    So there will never be funding for them.

  • Mar 21, 2022
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    people will still sell you the capitalist dream knowing full well just how corrupt, malicious, and downright genocidal it’s realities are

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    Mar 21, 2022
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    Jim Halpert

    Public schools do not directly make ultra wealthy people more rich

    So there will never be funding for them.

    I’m really beginning to think that the only way to reverse the vicious cycle we’re in is to somehow incentivize the wealthy to get their kids into public schools and therefore demand more funding. No idea how that could practically be achieved, though. Significant tax breaks? Or maybe even significant restrictions on private school donations and just accept the ensuing culture war lol

  • Mar 21, 2022
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    Flaphead

    I’m really beginning to think that the only way to reverse the vicious cycle we’re in is to somehow incentivize the wealthy to get their kids into public schools and therefore demand more funding. No idea how that could practically be achieved, though. Significant tax breaks? Or maybe even significant restrictions on private school donations and just accept the ensuing culture war lol

    The wealthy can’t do that because they by definition do not live anywhere near public schools

    It’s a dire situation. Can we think of any ways that schools can make rich people richer immediately? If not we’re screwed.

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    they would rather kids not learn s*** than pay the damn educators more

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    Mar 21, 2022
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    Jim Halpert

    The wealthy can’t do that because they by definition do not live anywhere near public schools

    It’s a dire situation. Can we think of any ways that schools can make rich people richer immediately? If not we’re screwed.

    Fair point, but there’s certainly a population of wealthy families in the urban core who pay to bus their kids out to the sticks for private school rather than let them associate with the poors; this coming from personal experience having gone to a Minneapolis public school myself lol. I would want to somehow pressure the hell out of any family that chooses to do that.

  • Mar 21, 2022
    math fifty

    they would rather kids not learn s*** than pay the damn educators more

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    Mar 21, 2022
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    math fifty

    they would rather kids not learn s*** than pay the damn educators more

    Whole time local opinion writers and suburb boomers are going on about how selfish the teachers are for keeping kids out of school

    Average teacher salaries for in MN are much higher than the national average and still significantly below reasonable when compared to cost of living. S***’s so sad. My buddy was saying he’s one of several folks who are already intending to leave the field after this school year one way or another. They just want to be a part of this strike to give the next gen of teachers a fighting chance.

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    Mar 21, 2022
    americana

    people will still sell you the capitalist dream knowing full well just how corrupt, malicious, and downright genocidal it’s realities are

    This right here is the underlying fact. Frankly, the class able to keep their kids out of public schools probably is perfectly happy watching this collapse. More low wage workers graduating to pad their pockets.

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    Flaphead

    Fair point, but there’s certainly a population of wealthy families in the urban core who pay to bus their kids out to the sticks for private school rather than let them associate with the poors; this coming from personal experience having gone to a Minneapolis public school myself lol. I would want to somehow pressure the hell out of any family that chooses to do that.

    Damn that’s sad. Yeah it’s all about the system. My parents are both teachers and both clear 90k+ in TN

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    Mar 21, 2022
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    Jim Halpert

    Damn that’s sad. Yeah it’s all about the system. My parents are both teachers and both clear 90k+ in TN

    Kudos to them both, truly. We’re lucky to have educators like them in the field.

    90k is fantastic! Any idea if TN does pay scales based on education? I know that’s another factor in MN; you’re basically locked below 70k I believe unless you have a masters which is obviously prohibitive for a lot of teachers.

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    Flaphead

    Whole time local opinion writers and suburb boomers are going on about how selfish the teachers are for keeping kids out of school

    Average teacher salaries for in MN are much higher than the national average and still significantly below reasonable when compared to cost of living. S***’s so sad. My buddy was saying he’s one of several folks who are already intending to leave the field after this school year one way or another. They just want to be a part of this strike to give the next gen of teachers a fighting chance.

    How old is he?

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    Mar 21, 2022
    Shy

    How old is he?

    Bout to be 30, he’s been teaching since he got out of college. He’s currently doing a CS certificate program through Hennepin Tech not far out of the city at night.

  • Mar 21, 2022

    Just searched this on Twitter and damn people are idiots.

  • Mar 21, 2022
    Flaphead

    Kudos to them both, truly. We’re lucky to have educators like them in the field.

    90k is fantastic! Any idea if TN does pay scales based on education? I know that’s another factor in MN; you’re basically locked below 70k I believe unless you have a masters which is obviously prohibitive for a lot of teachers.

    Yes. Masters is a pay bump. edS is a pay bump. phD is a pay bump

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    Those who can, do.
    Those who can’t, teach.

  • Mar 21, 2022
    loner

    Those who can, do.
    Those who can’t, teach.

    Teaching a class of adolescents something they do not care to know or see the importance of takes an insane amount of talent.

    I’m sorry your experience with teachers was poor.

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    Mar 21, 2022
    loner

    Those who can, do.
    Those who can’t, teach.

    And those with brain worms buy NFTs 😮‍💨