Apr 12, 2022·2 replies
JodyIm okay with a police presence in the subway
Expecting them to be everywhere at once that is unrealisticpolice already riddle the subways but seem more concerned with turnstile hoppers
Apr 12, 2022·2 replies
moshCrime still happens regardless and no amount of police is gonna change that bro, don't be this dense
Too many dumb takes. You want a world where 0 crime happens and I can't entertain this s*** lol
Apr 12, 2022Loupolice already riddle the subways but seem more concerned with turnstile hoppers
and the homeless
- Apr 12, 2022·edited·1 reply
safariI’m seeing brain dead arguments on both sides
Can we just get a collective “Fuck NYPD”
Anybody that disagrees banned for life
On board security should be present. More civilians need to be aware of any weirdos looking to secure their motives. Everyone has a tell. Not saying this could’ve been prevented but a heightened awareness isn’t harmful.
Apr 12, 2022·1 replyfashion killaok well, first, no it won't drastically affect anything.
I agree, it will lower the chance of crimes happening. At what cost though? Often, increased police presence might initially decrease crimes in some places, but the long-term result is an increase in poverty, an increase in unjust incarceration, and as a result, a gradual increase in long-term crime rates 🤷♂️
and then what folks usually do is throw even more police at the issue. which only furthers that cycle. In addition to being an ineffective solution in the long term, that cycle also has some serious negative effects. Not only will it have negligible impacts on long term crime, it will also probably make the surrounding community poorer and land a LOT of innocent people in jail, especially if we're talking about a minority community.
i guess the long answer is, yeah i agree, more police in metro stations will probably decrease crime in the short term, but this comes at a serious cost in the long term, both in terms of quality of life and overall equity and justice.
we've literally dropped statistics that more police presence lessened crime
what more do you want
- Apr 12, 2022·1 replyJihyo
Crazy how that works but when people talk about guns and you say
“Crazy people are gonna do crazy things even without guns”
They call you ed and s***
I doubt there’s evidence that increasing police presence increases crime. That’s the only valid reason for being against more police on subway platforms.
ok first, i think this is supposed to be a gotcha but im not anti-gun
and second, nytimes.com/2021/11/08/us/police-crime.html
Vlonely 🦍Apr 12, 2022·1 replyDawg one of my friends told me she's on that platform at that time every day to go to work but was late today because of her dog
- Apr 12, 2022·1 replyBestowed· edited
On board security should be present. More civilians need to be aware of any weirdos looking to secure their motives. Everyone has a tell. Not saying this could’ve been prevented but a heightened awareness isn’t harmful.
Yes bro, solutions. Not police. They are but one tool to use, not the only tool
Apr 12, 2022·1 replyYoungFashionedthis is just a dumb take.
doing crimes in front of regular people isnt equal to doing it infront of law enforcement.
People just being there is a deterrent, if a crime is going to happen, then chances are there aren't people there in the first place.
And those that are committing crimes in front of people probably don't have quelms with committing crimes in front of police.
People aren't trying to break into your house just as you hey home, you're more likely to get broken into during work hours or while you're sleeping.- Apr 12, 2022Jihyo
Okay and if there’s cop everywhere what you gonna do then?
How is that not in favor of more police presence lmao
You just said nobody is gonna rob someone in front of a cop. Why not put them everywhere?
It's not feasible to put cops everywhere lol come on man
Regardless this incident took place on the actual train, not the platform. Are you suggesting we pay cops to ride the train all day?
Moreover as someone said the dude was wearing a worker uniform, he was going to do this regardless of cop presence
- Apr 12, 2022·1 replyYoungFashioned
we've literally dropped statistics that more police presence lessened crime
what more do you want
1. where i didn't see
2. are we talking long term or short term. cus i agree it helps in short term, but it isn't that effective long term, and comes at a drastic social cost.
- Apr 12, 2022·2 repliesVillainous B
People just being there is a deterrent, if a crime is going to happen, then chances are there aren't people there in the first place.
And those that are committing crimes in front of people probably don't have quelms with committing crimes in front of police.
People aren't trying to break into your house just as you hey home, you're more likely to get broken into during work hours or while you're sleeping.so please explain why more police presence in nyc resulted in less crime over the years
if people dont give a f*** about cops being there when committing crimes
Apr 12, 2022
eclassthis thread already turning into a race war huh
ktt will ktt
- Vlonely 🦍Apr 12, 2022Lou
police already riddle the subways but seem more concerned with turnstile hoppers
Fr I've rarely ever seen police on the actual subway
- Apr 12, 2022
The political response to these things is always increased “security measures” and the funneling of money in that direction
- Apr 12, 20221887
Too many dumb takes. You want a world where 0 crime happens and I can't entertain this s*** lol
plants 🌻Apr 12, 2022Why not put them (the cops) everywhere?
gee idk man, great question
- Apr 12, 2022·1 replyfashion killa
1. where i didn't see
2. are we talking long term or short term. cus i agree it helps in short term, but it isn't that effective long term, and comes at a drastic social cost.
how about you do some research if youre going to be discussing this.
- Apr 12, 20221887
Too many dumb takes. You want a world where 0 crime happens and I can't entertain this s*** lol
What are you even arguing here lmao
- Apr 12, 2022safari
Yes bro, solutions. Not police. They are but one tool to use, not the only tool
precisely.
if there was a proposal to increase police presence for like a month or two ij direct response to this id say yeah ok maybe (even though i doubt that would be necessary or worth it but whatever)
but it's not a temporary proposal, that's the thing. people ignore all other solutions and just chuck police at the issue, which can often actually worsen the root causes.
- Apr 12, 2022·1 replyfashion killa
ok first, i think this is supposed to be a gotcha but im not anti-gun
and second, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/08/us/police-crime.html
Can’t see the article bro NYTimes not getting a dime from me
Regardless tho based on the title they might be talking about the plain clothes unit that was disbanded a couple years ago ?
Idk what they’re talking about but I’m talking uniformed cops patrolling the subway platforms
- Apr 12, 2022·1 reply
Wasnt biden just calling on congress for gun reform yesterday
Could be a reaction - Apr 12, 2022
Apr 12, 2022·1 replyJihyoOkay and if there’s cop everywhere what you gonna do then?
How is that not in favor of more police presence lmao
You just said nobody is gonna rob someone in front of a cop. Why not put them everywhere?
Because terrorism and a petty robbery are not the same thing.
- Apr 12, 2022Oxnard
No but I think shooting bad people with guns should be something police do
Still going back to your original point of what causes shootings. IDK
Are you saying we should just sit around until a solution comes? Like obviously this problem is a cognitive one, and won’t be fixed overnight. In the meantime, up the police presence so people can’t get away with s*** like this. There’s absolutely ZERO reason why someone is able to shoot 3 people on a NYC subway and get away with it.
So you think police should have even more leeway to extrajudicially shoot people without any sort of real trial lol? Have you seen how well that goes? But I guess to you a few more black people being arbitrarily murdered without trial is but a small price to pay for “law and order”
Yeah go f*** yourself lol