Lmfao we doing the sales number s*** when J COLE A MAINSTREAM ARTIST. NO S*** HES GONNA SELL MORE.
Cmon bro you’re just arguing in bad faith. Legit your only argument is sales and not the fact that the music isn’t good because people ain’t bumping it even though he makes music for the masses unlike Push. Like you’re just disregarding this to try and prove a point
4YEO is a dope ass album. Its probably my least favorite cole album besides his debut but no way in hell is it bad. The second half of the album def slowed down and had a couple tracks im not a big fan of but I never got the hate.
Musically it’s a flop, yeah.
Lemme ask you this, is Scorpion a flop?
First half nah, second half
4YEO is a dope ass album. Its probably my least favorite cole album besides his debut but no way in hell is it bad. The second half of the album def slowed down and had a couple tracks im not a big fan of but I never got the hate.
Just a step down from all his other s*** and it drops off hard after like the first 5 tracks. It’s okay, but it’s definitely not great and when you consider it following up a classic, it comes off as a flop.
MCHG a flop even though I like a lot of the album and think it’s overhated . That s*** sound a milli first week and had like a #1 with Holy Grail. Hov in my top 3. I’m just telling it how it is bro
First half nah, second half
Gotta acknowledge the whole project.
You also didn’t comment on my endless question
Btw I’m not saying you can’t like the album. I just think the s*** isn’t that good personally and I think a lot of people would agree. I don’t like views and even though it sold a ton, the s*** was a flop coming off IYRTITL. It doesn’t have staying power and the rapping is a clear step down
Lol so you admitting no one listens to the album then
DBD better than any Cole album and that’s facts. Sorry Push doesn’t make songs about Wet Dreamz so the whites will eat that up like f***ing salt and vinegar chips
aight but you not denying no one is listening to darkest before dawn right
Gotta acknowledge the whole project.
You also didn’t comment on my endless question
Endless wasn't an album put up to sale for 2 years since it dropped and almost anyone with it had the leaks. Every frank fan had that zip.
I agree with MCHG though but once again, if thats a flop so is DBD. Nobody playing that s***
First half nah, second half
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Endless wasn't an album put up to sale for 2 years since it dropped and almost anyone with it had the leaks. Every frank fan had that zip.
I agree with MCHG though but once again, if thats a flop so is DBD. Nobody playing that s***
I’m focusing on the music aspect, so I really don’t know how you can argue this. No one played it from the jump. Push ain’t that type of rapper. You’re using the wrong metric and you know it lol. You wouldn’t be pressing me this hard if I didn’t come after an album you liked, I promise you that
I’m focusing on the music aspect, so I really don’t know how you can argue this. No one played it from the jump. Push ain’t that type of rapper. You’re using the wrong metric and you know it lol. You wouldn’t be pressing me this hard if I didn’t come after an album you liked, I promise you that
Theres a lot of people who think 4YEO is his best album, not a popular opinion but not unpopular either. Idk what you want me to say lol
'' I promise you that''
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, I literally told you I wasn't a big fan of the album
You just can't admit Cole makes good music and Pusha is just a dope rapper. Don't know what to tell you
aight but you not denying no one is listening to darkest before dawn right
Nah I ain’t denying it. They should be tho
I know Push doesn’t make music for the masses. It’s still a great f***ing album despite it. Plenty of really good album that don’t get a ton of spins cause it isn’t mainstream. Like I really never understood this argument. People can never talk about the quality of music because sales is the only metric they can go by. We all know it’s bullshit.
Just cause you make accessible s*** that panders to the charts, doesn’t make it great by any other metric. The really good s*** is the s*** that is good and makes the charts regardless.
Some s*** just isn’t made for the charts though, and I’m pretty sure an album dedicated to paying homage to coke rap falls into this category
Theres a lot of people who think 4YEO is his best album, not a popular opinion but not unpopular either. Idk what you want me to say lol
'' I promise you that''
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, I literally told you I wasn't a big fan of the album
You just can't admit Cole makes good music and Pusha is just a dope rapper. Don't know what to tell you
Nigga are you f***ing lost?
I don’t like one album and now I think he’s a bad rapper? I think Push is better by a pretty wide margin but I still think Cole is great. You’re literally just like making s*** up LOL. Sorry bro, I didn’t like the album. Didn’t mean to ruin your whole day because of it
Edit: also you literally said it was “a dope ass album.” Now you don’t like it that much? I apologize I misrepresented your opinion LMAO, I guess I don’t know how else to interpret that
Nigga are you f***ing lost?
I don’t like one album and now I think he’s a bad rapper? I think Push is better by a pretty wide margin but I still think Cole is great. You’re literally just like making s*** up LOL. Sorry bro, I didn’t like the album. Didn’t mean to ruin your whole day because of it
Edit: also you literally said it was “a dope ass album.” Now you don’t like it that much? I apologize I misrepresented your opinion LMAO, I guess I don’t know how else to interpret that
I said it was my least favorite of his major albums are you okay? You going on a tirade claiming 4YEO is a flop when all signs point against it.
You didn't like it just leave it at that stop trying to make your opinion a reality, its not.
I said it was my least favorite of his major albums are you okay? You going on a tirade claiming 4YEO is a flop when all signs point against it.
You didn't like it just leave it at that stop trying to make your opinion a reality, its not.
Lmfao I’m done with this s***, mainly cause I gotta go to bed and I’ve already spent too much time arguing over some dumbass s*** that was intended as a joke toward someone else initially. Sorry if you got offended by my opinion. I’m not even tryna be like that btw, like genuinely was just having a decent dialogue but I guess s*** got a lil personal.
I’ll just settle on agree to disagree and call it cause I think we just have different standards on what we consider a “flop” so let’s just leave it at that. No hard feelings bro, have a good one
I love when Cole stans try and come at me like I don’t defend this man on here more than the average KTT user. I can just admit when a project is weak and don’t have to try and do mental gymnastics for my favorites
This "4YEO is Cole's best album" bullshit I've been seeing on here needs to stop
Wait since when did KTT care about misogyny lmfao??
Future gets worshipped here.
Wait since when did KTT care about misogyny lmfao??
Future gets worshipped here.
Facts niggas been bumping thotianna like its nothing lmao