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  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
    Elric

    Why did you link that page? Didn't you ask for non album songs

    yeah i kinda changed topic slightly

  • Mar 11, 2021
    laudi

    except it was on the Yellow Submarine album

    Rvi already explained

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    Elric

    Why did you link that page? Didn't you ask for non album songs

    yep shelved songs

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    rvi

    ye but i was just using non albums as a side point not meaning to directly compare to the straight up bootleg ones

    just showing that they didnt waste the "leftovers".

    beach boys got quality non album official releases too though ofc like Break Away

    yeh but that’s not the argument tho

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    ithaka

    eeehhhh well they didn’t write it

    by that measure seasons in the sun is a bbs song too

    dont think ive ever heard something called seasons in the sun

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    rvi

    dont think ive ever heard something called seasons in the sun

    terry jacks was some canadian rising artist then he went to the us to present this seasons in the sun song he wrote (partially inspired by a jacques brel song) to the bbs to use (we talking surfs up era) they gave it a shot and it remains shelved

    years later terry finally recorded it himself and it became a hit

    nirvana covered it too

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    ithaka

    yeh but that’s not the argument tho

    theres not an argument lol just providing more info to my point that beatles were arguably more efficient with deciding which songs went on albums, and using the leftover ones anyway instead of letting great ones go to waste

    i wonder how much of that is a management issue though tbh since afaik beatles had more artistic freedom than later beach boys especially who maybe seemed like they had to get bossed around a bit by the label/manager. or pressured at least

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    ithaka

    terry jacks was some canadian rising artist then he went to the us to present this seasons in the sun song he wrote (partially inspired by a jacques brel song) to the bbs to use (we talking surfs up era) they gave it a shot and it remains shelved

    !https://youtu.be/OU8XVgmO1HQ

    years later terry finally recorded it himself and it became a hit

    !https://youtu.be/-tPcc1ftj8E

    nirvana covered it too

    !https://youtu.be/heIog9Rv7Qw

    ah, and its an adaptation of a song did by your man jacques brel i see

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    ithaka

    yep shelved songs

    Kinks, Dylan and Neil got just as much gold in the vault as anybody.

    I would stan any band that came out with these but they were in the vault for years;

    Neil's new album homegrown is mostly a whole new album he just didn't feel like releasing in the early mid 70s

  • Mar 11, 2021
    rvi

    ah, and its an adaptation of a song did by your man jacques brel i see

    heeehhhh it’s more remakish iirc

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    Elric

    Kinks, Dylan and Neil got just as much gold in the vault as anybody.

    I would stan any band that came out with these but they were in the vault for years;

    !https://youtu.be/W56d-WJiAh4!https://youtu.be/KrEzi28yga0

    Neil's new album homegrown is mostly a whole new album he just didn't feel like releasing in the early mid 70s

    yup another reason why we need neil thread so @Ithaka can post some random vault gems

  • Mar 11, 2021

    kinda wanna put seasons on my surfs up alt but doesn’t really fit for the album does it

    maybe as a stand along single to it

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    rvi

    theres not an argument lol just providing more info to my point that beatles were arguably more efficient with deciding which songs went on albums, and using the leftover ones anyway instead of letting great ones go to waste

    i wonder how much of that is a management issue though tbh since afaik beatles had more artistic freedom than later beach boys especially who maybe seemed like they had to get bossed around a bit by the label/manager. or pressured at least

    Wanna see a timeline where the Kinks wound up with George Martin instead

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    rvi

    this is spikey punk to you??

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziZwJ9RxF8M

    try this 1999 one then, there is no way its even close to spikey punk. (not even rock at this point)

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMeQjcmt52g

    and this is the direct beach boys pastiche:

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRcXWGLummo

    first one i can see why i didnt dig

    second one whew amazing

    third one damn does he ever sound like brian

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    Elric

    Wanna see a timeline where the Kinks wound up with George Martin instead

    or Spector

  • Mar 11, 2021
    rvi

    yup another reason why we need neil thread so @Ithaka can post some random vault gems

    neil having one of the most influential bands covering a leftover he never even bothered to record in studio is a big flex

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    but then again the bbs have primal scream covering a bbs song that still remains to this day only bootlegged, unreleased

    that’s prolly also a big flex beatles don’t have

  • Mar 11, 2021

    check mate

  • Mar 11, 2021
    laudi

    or Spector

    Elvis with Spector in the 70s couldve saved both their lives hard to imagine how crazy that wouldve been

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    Elric

    first one i can see why i didnt dig

    second one whew amazing

    third one damn does he ever sound like brian

    ok i think maybe you should skip ahead to the late career gem Apple Venus Volume One then, probably my #3 from them. lush and chamber af with amazing arrangements/orchestration. barely any rock let alone spiky punk and much more mature

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    rvi

    ok i think maybe you should skip ahead to the late career gem Apple Venus Volume One then, probably my #3 from them. lush and chamber af with amazing arrangements/orchestration. barely any rock let alone spiky punk and much more mature

    will dü

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    watched ithaka go from a beatles stan to a hater all because of a dead rivalry

    you can enjoy both bands fam

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    Elric

    will dü

  • rvi 🦜
    Mar 11, 2021
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    new

    watched ithaka go from a beatles stan to a hater all because of a dead rivalry

    you can enjoy both bands fam

    we'll convert him back...

  • Mar 11, 2021
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    rvi

    am i trippin or does this first song sound like Yes, vocal wise

    with a tinge of david byrne