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  • Oct 9, 2020
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    laudi

    that's different
    just cause The Cure made an iconic song doesn't mean they're mainstream artists
    The Police were never "really" a punk band to begin with

    what about pop punk

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    blah

    what about pop punk

    like green day and blink?

  • Oct 9, 2020
    CactusJackSentYa

    I love Closer

    SO BABY PULL ME CLOSER

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    laudi

    like green day and blink?

    yeah and mainstream emo bands like mcr

  • Oct 9, 2020
    laudi
    • Uptown Funk
    • Someone Like You
    • Thinking Out Loud
    • Shake It Off
    • We Found Love
    • Despacito
    • Happy
    • Royals
    • Party Rock Anthem
    • See You Again
    • Old Town Road
    • Can't Hold Us
    • Closer
    • Firework
    • Call Me Maybe

    In retrospect, I should've put I Feel It Coming instead of Despacito. But in all fairness, the Bieber remix of Despacito was a landmark moment.

  • Oct 9, 2020

    rock also became more apart of establishment

    rap supposed rock after 93

  • Oct 9, 2020
    laudi

    that's different
    just cause The Cure made an iconic song doesn't mean they're mainstream artists
    The Police were never "really" a punk band to begin with

    The Cure aren’t the only band lmao. I’m talking Talking Heads, Blondie, Devo, Depeche Mode, The Pretenders,The Police, Tears for Fears etc.

    All those acts have punk roots, and they were mainstream

  • Oct 9, 2020
    blah

    yeah and mainstream emo bands like mcr

    my point was the death of rock started much earlier than people realize and it was slowed because of how media controlled the culture

  • rvi 🐸
    Oct 9, 2020
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    laudi

    that's different
    just cause The Cure made an iconic song doesn't mean they're mainstream artists
    The Police were never "really" a punk band to begin with

    nah the cure definitely made it big enough to qualify as mainstream even tho they were alternative

  • rvi 🐸
    Oct 9, 2020
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    laudi

    i actually think it happened earlier
    rock was done after Hendrix died but ran on fumes for a few years afterwards
    that's around the time funk and disco started and england appreciated those genres better than racist ass Amerikkka
    so when disco "died" in 1980, england appropriated it in a lot of their "rock" music to keep the spirit of mainstream rock going but america completely ignored it throughout the '80s, '90s, and '00s
    this is why american rock bands from 1980-2010 were mostly lame as f***

    "rock was done after Hendrix died but ran on fumes for a few years afterwards"

    i dont fully believe that you fully believe this bro

  • Oct 9, 2020
    rvi

    nah the cure definitely made it big enough to qualify as mainstream even tho they were alternative

    Facts. Lovesong, Just Like Heaven, and Friday I’m In Love get constant radio rotation here on the throwback pop channels

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    would've loved to see Redbone on this

  • Oct 9, 2020
    Bow And Arrow
    !https://youtu.be/bpOSxM0rNPM

    can't stand this song

  • Oct 9, 2020

    also rock is very segmented now people don't say oh i am starting a rock band, they say oh i am starting this shoegaze band or they starting some post-hardcore band or some bullshit like that

    as @op said none these bands have anything to do with each other musically because they are so different

    rap is going down this same path

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    rvi

    "rock was done after Hendrix died but ran on fumes for a few years afterwards"

    i dont fully believe that you fully believe this bro

    when "rock" was commercialized and lost its direct roots with little richard and the blues, it died because it had to take on a new form: punk

    @Elric chime in

  • Oct 9, 2020

    Lil Nas X is set for life thanks to Old Town Road lol, how one song can change your entire life.

  • Oct 9, 2020
    earthwalka

    would've loved to see Redbone on this

    possibly Redbone over Royals and I Feel it coming over despacito

  • Oct 9, 2020
    Bow And Arrow
    !https://youtu.be/bpOSxM0rNPM

    no

  • rvi 🐸
    Oct 9, 2020
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    laudi

    when "rock" was commercialized and lost its direct roots with little richard and the blues, it died because it had to take on a new form: punk

    @Elric chime in

    what definition are you using for the genre "dying"

    cuz i really cant see how in terms of quality, popularity or originality rock died in 1971-1975 compared to like 1966-1970

    i think that whole narrative about rock "NEEDING" to become punk is kinda trite and overblown tbh. lot of it just coming from dudes who think theyre cool for disliking prog and hard rock

  • rvi 🐸
    Oct 9, 2020
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    i dont find much value in talking about genres "dying" or being dead tbh

    genres dont die they just start to smell a little funny and thats ok

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    it might be missing the 21 pilots track ?
    great beat by mike elizondo btw (produced alot for Dre, Em...)

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    rvi

    what definition are you using for the genre "dying"

    cuz i really cant see how in terms of quality, popularity or originality rock died in 1971-1975 compared to like 1966-1970

    i think that whole narrative about rock "NEEDING" to become punk is kinda trite and overblown tbh. lot of it just coming from dudes who think theyre cool for disliking prog and hard rock

    it's more about the ambitions of the genre
    after Physical Graffiti, no mainstream rock act tried to make an album that good which didn't sound like a retread

  • Oct 9, 2020
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    And not even 1 ounce of talent

  • Oct 9, 2020

    also lots of traditional rock which comes out now is f***ing trash

    most good stuff coming "rock family tree" are like more experimental side which P4K/fantano champions. None of those records gonna get mainstream radio play

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