Sweeterman

7h

Explain your side of the story, I'm interested

KayTray

5h

They got it right this year with Bad Bunny

whippet volverse

5h

S*** is just another form of industry politricks

There’s a reason why none of the people who win the award actually take them home the same night, and that’s because the award is decided by relationships with the board, not the music or impact of an artist. If it was all about music, you’d get an engraved trophy the day of the event. Not a placeholder, and them pulling a name out of an envelope or a card.
Even the Steve Harvey s*** I think wasn’t his mistake, he just couldn’t publicly admit what really went down.
If you piss someone off the night of, it’s gonna go from “you’re set to win x award” to “the winner is Beck”
A lot of the people who perform at these shows do so to curry favor for future awards

You see how they made an example out of The Weeknd some years back
It’s really some nonsense
But it helps with marketing

Jalen Brunson Fan

5h

Really exciting topics being discussed today

Poolboy Q

5h

And give one to Kanye for “I whipped it out she said she never seen snakes on a plane”

herald

4h

damn
feel bad for op
thread fulla obtuse "well acktually" headass replies lol

Mark Moschino

5h

sometimes i worry that people on here can't decouple popularity with quality...

YANDHI

5h

You stopped caring but made this whole thread about a timeline?

I'd argue the Grammy's aren't even here to do that. None of these examples needed a trophy to solidify their popularity or impact. The charts and accolades were their evidence already.

americana

5h

Well yes, it’s an industry prestige award, not a zeitgeist award. You can go to billboard or mtv for that

Sweeterman

2h

But what is defined as prestige when comes to entertainment? Something that captures the current moment and its politics.

Think Parasite winning BP at the Oscars, that captured a moment.

whippet volverse

5h

S*** is just another form of industry politricks

There’s a reason why none of the people who win the award actually take them home the same night, and that’s because the award is decided by relationships with the board, not the music or impact of an artist. If it was all about music, you’d get an engraved trophy the day of the event. Not a placeholder, and them pulling a name out of an envelope or a card.
Even the Steve Harvey s*** I think wasn’t his mistake, he just couldn’t publicly admit what really went down.
If you piss someone off the night of, it’s gonna go from “you’re set to win x award” to “the winner is Beck”
A lot of the people who perform at these shows do so to curry favor for future awards

You see how they made an example out of The Weeknd some years back
It’s really some nonsense
But it helps with marketing

Kojimbo

5h

They got it right with Macklemore tho

notmyfirst

4h

That’s not what the Grammys are about

Water Giver

4h

They're not suppose to be about the zeitgeist or a popularity contest lol, in theory it's suppose to be based only on skill of the craft

The billboard awards is what you're looking for

Valentine

2h

The devil is usually further in the details

The “prestige” in Becks case for example would be Nigel Goodrich

Sweeterman

2h

100%.

What I don't understand is why artists like Beyonce, Jay-Z and The Weeknd kept going to these awards to be disrespected.

Taylor Swift won 3 AOTYs and Billie got 1 before they gave one to B.

Midzy

2h

You should include who won those years

But also 25 > Lemonade

Sweeterman

2h

What are the Grammys about then?

Also why did awards like the AMAs, Billboard, VMAs and BET awards take a backseat to the Academy in the artists' eyes?

Sweeterman

2h

But what is defined as prestige when comes to entertainment? Something that captures the current moment and its politics.

Think Parasite winning BP at the Oscars, that captured a moment.