-Rory & Mal not there
-Joe didn’t tell Rory happy birthday
-Joe says he loves and respects Mal because respect is a part of how he classifies friendship
-Joe says he protected Mal throughout their entire friendship and Mal lived with him
-Joe says Mal never broke bread with him
-Joe says Mal has a pattern of focusing on himself
-Joe basically says f*** Rory & Rory doesn’t really know him
-Joe says Mal & Rory have never said what their problem is & only say “they want to see the accounting”
-Joe says Rory wanted to own part of the podcast during Spotify negotiations or get paid from the YouTube page & he said no to both but told Rory and Mal to build their own YouTube pages
-Joe says Rory & Mal made him lock into projections of the pod for them to keep showing up, which they agreed
-Ian and Joe say this was done to give them framework to secure their lives & lawyers negotiated everything
-Joe says they (all of them) are numbers to companies & Spotify kept Rory and Mal off billboards and said Joe was the podcast
-Joe says Rory and Mal want to audit instead of accounting, and Mal feels that he doesn’t want to work with someone he has to audit
-Joe says Mal can’t talk to him about respect because of them bringing up checking the books and all business calls go to him
-Ian and Parks say neither one of them have contracts with Joe
-Joe says this whole problem is heavier on Rory and him wanting to know what happened the Spotify deal
-Joe says Rory and Mal are “ill-advised or advising ill”
-Joe says Rory and Mal aren’t happy with their contracts but never asked a question
-Joe says he’s richer without Rory and Mal
-Joe says ‘Rory’s little measly...entitled ass’ is insignificant and the world doesn’t revolve around himself or Rory
-Ian says companies are protective of themselves
-Parks says he’s happy to see how Joe has become as a businessman
-Joe says Rory & Mal were paid in top 1-5% and shouldn’t be looking for YouTube dollars
-Ian says Rory & Mal don’t see the bigger picture
-Joe says he tried to encourage Mal to do stuff outside the podcast but Mal didn’t want to
-Joe says he brought opportunities to Rory that never panned out but ‘bringing opportunities to others is who he is’
-Joe says the accounting problem has existed for 3 years
-Joe says Rory has had questions for everything and Rory doesn’t get to question him because of the contract
-Joe says the ‘JoeAvengers are hurt because they can’t hurt him’ and people are running smear campaigns on him
-Joe says Rory & Mal are not creators and tried leverage friendship with business
-Joe says Ish & Ice are on Patreon because he doesn’t know what they want to do yet
-Joe says when ‘dudes’ (Akademiks) tried to mistreat Rory he protected with him & people pulled up on Joe to find Rory at Parks’ house
-Joe says Rory & Mal have been overpaid for years
-Joe says Rory thinks he’s egotistical for leaving him out of certain things like Patreon
-Joe and Parks says the Podcast is still unsigned
-Joe says about the podcast: ‘they’ve been rich off part-time jobs’
-Parks says (of Mal) respect is a two-way street and ‘nothing says respect like you pay me well’
-Joe says Mal’s money hasn’t changed in years
-Joe says the distance Mal has created between them is because of Rory
-Joe says he thinks the boundaries between friendship and business may not have been clear for Rory and Mal
-Joe says they should’ve been helping them raise Ish, Ice and the Network to flip the numbers in their favor
-Joe says he can’t continue to protect Mal & Rory
-Ian & Joe says Rory & Mal essentially called Joe a thief and their attitudes ruined good faith
-Joe says the pod was made great because of chemistry and lack of chemistry demeans value
-Joe says he’s always been talking to Rory & Mal through what he says on the pod
-Joe says Rory & Mal don’t have the history to call him out on anything
-Ian says Joe is one of the most generous people he’s ever worked with, isn’t selfish, and people close to Joe have to learn to give
-Joe says he didn’t have an actual problem with Rory offering him hands but Rory telling him in the context that he made a bad podcast
-Joe says ‘he’ll sue the pants off’ Rory and Mal if they start a podcast in the next year, but they can make one after the contract runs out without the help of Joe
-Joe says YouTube money doesn’t pay anything
-Joe says over the last 3 years Rory has been liabilities behind the scenes and Rory & Mal ate the most but bred mistrust among everyone else
-Ian says Joe handed Rory and Mal blessings and they couldn’t see it
-Joe says Rory & Mal ‘won’t get him off his moral compass for creators’
-Joe says he don’t wanna hear nothing about friends no more
-Joe says Rory is fired and not welcomed back, but he and Mal can talk about it, but the cards are not in Mal’s hands
-Joe says Rory questioned his friendship and character for the possibility of working with Akademiks when he overpaid and overprotected Rory
-Joe says Rory’s head hasn’t been in the game for a long time and he doesn’t know Akademiks to be a liar (in regards to Rory allegedly sending someone to Akademiks’ house)
-Joe says Rory and Mal will lose if they audit or sue him, and that Rory and Mal have the same lawyer/manager (Benner) who have been playing in their heads
-Joe and Parks say they love Rory and Mal and hope they return someday if the energy is right
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Joe is such a f***ing hypocrite and liar lol. This entire thing goes directly against the s*** he claims to stand for in any other episode/time. He gotta shut up about "transparency" too, he doesn't owe it to anyone and that's fine, but then quit the very obvious fronting and lying please
"Mal and I never discussed ownership but that's my brother and I love him and he kept coming in so it was straight"
Well no s*** you were okay with it, you knew it'd work to your advantage down the line in a scenario like this
the former dust head with a history of domestic violence that has blown up his spot several times because he’s terrible at business and takes things personally has once again ruined something he created? color me surprised
Sheesh never thought it would end like this especially how they were talking about
Friends over Business s***
How they sat through all the Spotify rants like everything was cool
Joe used that line to exploit them
Joe just nasty
-Rory & Mal not there
-Joe didn’t tell Rory happy birthday
-Joe says he loves and respects Mal because respect is a part of how he classifies friendship
-Joe says he protected Mal throughout their entire friendship and Mal lived with him
-Joe says Mal never broke bread with him
-Joe says Mal has a pattern of focusing on himself
-Joe basically says f*** Rory & Rory doesn’t really know him
-Joe says Mal & Rory have never said what their problem is & only say “they want to see the accounting”
-Joe says Rory wanted to own part of the podcast during Spotify negotiations or get paid from the YouTube page & he said no to both but told Rory and Mal to build their own YouTube pages
-Joe says Rory & Mal made him lock into projections of the pod for them to keep showing up, which they agreed
-Ian and Joe say this was done to give them framework to secure their lives & lawyers negotiated everything
-Joe says they (all of them) are numbers to companies & Spotify kept Rory and Mal off billboards and said Joe was the podcast
-Joe says Rory and Mal want to audit instead of accounting, and Mal feels that he doesn’t want to work with someone he has to audit
-Joe says Mal can’t talk to him about respect because of them bringing up checking the books and all business calls go to him
-Ian and Parks say neither one of them have contracts with Joe
-Joe says this whole problem is heavier on Rory and him wanting to know what happened the Spotify deal
-Joe says Rory and Mal are “ill-advised or advising ill”
-Joe says Rory and Mal aren’t happy with their contracts but never asked a question
-Joe says he’s richer without Rory and Mal
-Joe says ‘Rory’s little measly...entitled ass’ is insignificant and the world doesn’t revolve around himself or Rory
-Ian says companies are protective of themselves
-Parks says he’s happy to see how Joe has become as a businessman
-Joe says Rory & Mal were paid in top 1-5% and shouldn’t be looking for YouTube dollars
-Ian says Rory & Mal don’t see the bigger picture
-Joe says he tried to encourage Mal to do stuff outside the podcast but Mal didn’t want to
-Joe says he brought opportunities to Rory that never panned out but ‘bringing opportunities to others is who he is’
-Joe says the accounting problem has existed for 3 years
-Joe says Rory has had questions for everything and Rory doesn’t get to question him because of the contract
-Joe says the ‘JoeAvengers are hurt because they can’t hurt him’ and people are running smear campaigns on him
-Joe says Rory & Mal are not creators and tried leverage friendship with business
-Joe says Ish & Ice are on Patreon because he doesn’t know what they want to do yet
-Joe says when ‘dudes’ (Akademiks) tried to mistreat Rory he protected with him & people pulled up on Joe to find Rory at Parks’ house
-Joe says Rory & Mal have been overpaid for years
-Joe says Rory thinks he’s egotistical for leaving him out of certain things like Patreon
-Joe and Parks says the Podcast is still unsigned
-Joe says about the podcast: ‘they’ve been rich off part-time jobs’
-Parks says (of Mal) respect is a two-way street and ‘nothing says respect like you pay me well’
-Joe says Mal’s money hasn’t changed in years
-Joe says the distance Mal has created between them is because of Rory
-Joe says he thinks the boundaries between friendship and business may not have been clear for Rory and Mal
-Joe says they should’ve been helping them raise Ish, Ice and the Network to flip the numbers in their favor
-Joe says he can’t continue to protect Mal & Rory
-Ian & Joe says Rory & Mal essentially called Joe a thief and their attitudes ruined good faith
-Joe says the pod was made great because of chemistry and lack of chemistry demeans value
-Joe says he’s always been talking to Rory & Mal through what he says on the pod
-Joe says Rory & Mal don’t have the history to call him out on anything
-Ian says Joe is one of the most generous people he’s ever worked with, isn’t selfish, and people close to Joe have to learn to give
-Joe says he didn’t have an actual problem with Rory offering him hands but Rory telling him in the context that he made a bad podcast
-Joe says ‘he’ll sue the pants off’ Rory and Mal if they start a podcast in the next year, but they can make one after the contract runs out without the help of Joe
-Joe says YouTube money doesn’t pay anything
-Joe says over the last 3 years Rory has been liabilities behind the scenes and Rory & Mal ate the most but bred mistrust among everyone else
-Ian says Joe handed Rory and Mal blessings and they couldn’t see it
-Joe says Rory & Mal ‘won’t get him off his moral compass for creators’
-Joe says he don’t wanna hear nothing about friends no more
-Joe says Rory is fired and not welcomed back, but he and Mal can talk about it, but the cards are not in Mal’s hands
-Joe says Rory questioned his friendship and character for the possibility of working with Akademiks when he overpaid and overprotected Rory
-Joe says Rory’s head hasn’t been in the game for a long time and he doesn’t know Akademiks to be a liar (in regards to Rory allegedly sending someone to Akademiks’ house)
-Joe says Rory and Mal will lose if they audit or sue him, and that Rory and Mal have the same lawyer/manager (Benner) who have been playing in their heads
-Joe and Parks say they love Rory and Mal and hope they return someday if the energy is right
Sheesh this alot man
Rory been w joe since year 1 of the pod and he couldn't just show him the numbers
especially w all the s*** he been giving spotify and the whole he's for the creators
They contradicted themselves (mostly Joe) when he said “Fuck rory he not welcomed back” and then “I love Rury and Maul and would love them back if the energy is right”
Rory did shoot himself in the foot. The first thing you do when coming into a startup as one of the first 3-7 people is get your ownership in place. Can’t do that after it’s already generating millions of dollars
Like he literally told rory to stay home and now it's rory fault for abandoning the pod
Rory been w joe since year 1 of the pod and he couldn't just show him the numbers
especially w all the s*** he been giving spotify and the whole he's for the creators
then Joe saying they not cool like that 
Joe made them niggas seem like buddies
Joe will understand that he f***ed this up!
The next 3 weeks he will see that he f***ed up his whole reputation.
Rory been w joe since year 1 of the pod and he couldn't just show him the numbers
especially w all the s*** he been giving spotify and the whole he's for the creators
Joe is for himself
Dude denied diddy signing artists to bad deals because they have a relationship now
Joe wanted Rory & Mal there so he could fire them to their face
Yup