all of these are from the last 2 months, news coverage too. there’s hella more too from a lot of places that were talking down on this during covid/red pill era. what do you think? aside from the misogyny that red pill brings (which is horrible), were there right statistics being researched? As we see today with how this is being discussed now. Or is it an unintended consequence of bringing attention to this?

What are the talking points

Shame it took unironic fascism for them to stop victim-blaming

essentially a PC way of presenting the same s*** Tate was talking about and removing the “control women” aspect

seems like a lot of these mainstream thought places and even news sources are starting to talk about a topic they were avoiding during Tate era. they even talk about masculinity and how it was the first to catch on to this problem and what caused that divide and lack of willingness to see the middle of the issue because both sides were stuck on either extreme

the issue began when the upholding of women (which we need) came at the forgetting of young men as young men were told “you don’t really have problems” and all their resources in forming their personality and view on the world in real life due to this need change for women comes from spaces that are now woman dominated, which doesn’t speak to the reality of growing up as a boy. there are less mentors for young men who are men, so they search for it in sports or online misogynistic spaces because, again, they were told “you don’t have problems”

Makes sense though, since such extremist ideologies target emotionally spiritually and psychologically stunted individuals. At least the tide may be turning

People were talking about the male loneliness epidemic and the ignorance about men’s mental health before there was a red pill. The red pill jumped on and exploited the unease of dejected young guys but it doesn’t mean the red pill were the first to highlight the real problems dudes are facing.

nah you’re ignoring just how overdrive red pill put the loneliness epidemic into. we gotta remember the internet today wasn’t the internet in 2015 or even 2010, and definitely not in 2005

before it was slower reaching, yea the conversation existed, but Andrew Tate was EVERYWHERE and a global mentor phenomenon to young men. he’d actively have tens of thousands of men old and young watching all at once and spreading this rhetorics around. I can deadass walk up to any 35+ dude and spit some Tate s*** and they’d resonate with a young nigga cause of Kevin Samuels lmfaoo. I could do the same with the youth, and they’ll resonate cause of Adin Ross

mix that in with the Fuentes, and the Kirks, and the Carti’s and you have a clusterfuck of braindead young men hyped up off misogyny and being lonely with their chosen leaders

this is WAY different from back then and is the catalyst to turning USA into a lacking desire society like Japan. the current youth is the lowest s***rate with each other in history

So you’re saying they’re still not addressing the fact that men cannot provide for themselves economically and definitely not for their household , which doesn’t exist and adds to the root issue as well

they do. the first video ends with a 10 minute discussion on this topic you are talking about. I had initially posted another comment adding that detail but deleted because I couldn’t explain it as well as they did or like you just did

first video in op coming out 5 years too late

Got it. Well yeah I’m not surprised at all, at certain point these things need to be addressed. Feel like it’s convenient now for liberal media to say this out loud now that trump is in power which again yeah adds to the s*** situation but it precedes him.

Maybe im cynical but it seems like media ( news, art, etc) seems to repacking anti capitalist rhetoric in a neutered way

but I can’t complain, bringing it to light is better than dodging it like in the past

all I know is one of the private sxns on this website def be red pill

I get what you’re saying, but the space in which he’s able to get those points off didn’t exist like it does now 5 year ago unfortunately. the dude in the video has been heavily anti big tech due to the social ramifications for a while, since like 2017 or some s***. this is kinda just like the perfect time to present all the s*** he’s researched, again, except in a context that’s been existing but now being acknowledged

bra why cant we get a long

you’re completely on point with your cynicism. that’s essentially what’s happening when you take a step back and observe the conversations, but again, that might just be us being cynical lol

yes, they are speaking about it from a “young men need help too” perspective, but realistically it’s just to push anti-capitalism and an unintended consequence is young men might still be forgotten again. Definitely a complicated time for young men, as it has always been for women. weird times

Am I ignorant or does this male crisis thing only exist in white English speaking people and countries?

you’re ignorant lmfao. look up femicide in non-white countries

this a global issue. there’s poor communities all around the world experiencing the same reality on social dynamics as first world, white dominated countries. the globalization of how we interact with each other and instant access to it has made this reality present in every pocket of the world

ehh dunno about europe but it definitely happens in latin america

Uh check out South Korea

Only pills I fw are Hulks or school busses. F*** all that other s***

symptom of collapse type s***

You’re ignorant

Yea i realised i was way off when I read the femicide post

This shouldn’t be framed around red pill rhetoric, and it’s not even the point of the male loneliness epidemic being talked about in those videos. Why is the stance on red pill talking points the leading point of this thread…and not male loneliness?