That both chattel slavery and colonialism did even more damage to Africa and the black diaspora than I imagined. Colonizers have deluded Black people around the world by first stripping enslaved africans of their culture, religion and history and then using the Bible and Christianity as well as their own European culture to build a new identity for these people.

This allowed for black people to be taught lies about who they are and where they come from. Black people were then taught that their continent of origin was insignificant and uncivilized and these lies helped create a insecurity within the black diaspora. If you are denied knowledge of who you are then of course you will accept what you're told or look for answers.

This is where the Israelites and hoteps come in. These people are the result of a people stripped and denied their history and knowledge, they have been told that being African is bad or disgusting so in turn they begin they are other things. Conveniently the black Israelites use the same book that was forced on their ancestors 400-500 years ago, they read the stories about the Jews and see and parallel and thats how they delude themselves.

The enslavers had succeeded in their goal to strip the African man of who is he so much to where he doesn't even believe he's African. And in the case of hoteps they base their view of themselves in African history somewhat but even then still ignore west/central Africa the place where they and most of the black diaspora originate. Instead they would rather claim they are North African Arabs or Amazigh instead of being proud of where they originate from, this is another form of delusion that ultimately plays into the goal of the colonizer and the enslaver.

I think the best solution to this issue is a nationwide initiative tp teach black children the history of who they are and where they come from NOT JUST SLAVERY. I believe that this would create a strong sense of pride for their African roots that is based in reality instead of some pseudo biblical nonsense or a ahistorical view of Africa or black people

here we go

What’s your take?

It’s true though

op makes good points and there’s nothing wrong with his solution

sadly this is just a flavor of the month topic within the mainstream and any meaningful conversation will be brushed under the rug by December

It's always been odd to me how hoteps don't choose sub-saharan african empires of the past

Hit it on the head @op

I predicted this s*** ten years ago. I knew the Israelite movement was gonna grow but I would’ve never imagined it’d be spear headed by Kanye West.

We in strange times. I’m curious to see where this goes. If not careful the Israelite community will suffer the same outcome as all hate groups

What’s the point of adopting a cultural heritage at all, whether that be Israelite or African or whatever?

Well said, and with the sensationalism going on, a lot of people are falling for the information in that documentary just causing more hate and repeating the cycle.

ye op you on the head with this one

Having a foundation, more organization, unity and values.

there will never be a nationwide initiative to teach black people black history without self determination of the black nation first. the US wont allow it as it would present too much of a threat to educate people on the rights they deserve and would weaken empire.

look up the black belt south thesis, black people within the black belt south constitute the 5 historical materialist requirements for a nation in a way that even the first nations indigenous people no longer do as a result of concentrated underdevelopment. "a nation within a nation."

marxists.org/archive/haywood/negro-liberation/ch07.htm
full book:
marxists.org/history/erol/1956-1960/haywood-negro.pdf

This sounds nice, but I don't think knowing where you come from automatically grants all that

Seems like those things could be established in the present to me.

And I also feel like if you’re merely adopting those facets but not taking on the negatives as well(which one can’t) then it’s basically just cultural tourism.

yea I know a lil about this. purely as a concept I'm behind it but id have to learn more to really give you more thoughts on it.

"A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.

It goes without saying that a nation, like every historical phenomenon, is subject to the law of change, has its history, its beginning and end.

It must be emphasized that none of the above characteristics taken separately is sufficient to define a nation. More than that, it is sufficient for a single one of these characteristics to be lacking and the nation ceases to be a nation."

so the chicano nation in the south west, hawaii, and the black belt south represent the three historical criteria for nations within a nation.

I’m a little confused. Who will teach this accurate representation of history?

you talking that s*** nigga

You're wrong, and I'm not sure I have enough time to explain why.

Look into the origins of African tribes handed down orally, there's almost always talk of migration. And that's pre-colonialism.

Now, in some cases, can you trace the "we were the real Jews" to some people conflating that migration in such a way that Christianity became appealing enough for them to adopt, sure, but I don't think it's something you can just handwave as the effects of colonialism.

Always found it weird that people want to claim pharaohs and s*** as if the Nubians didn’t exist and weren’t just as noteworthy

Africa wise americans only know about egypt

Franz Fanon wrote about the psychological effects of colonialism on colonized people in Wretched of the Earth. It's not a 1-to-1 comparison but I recommend checking it out if this is a topic of interest

All facts

It's like niggas afraid of reality

Organized religion is and always has been poison to society.

I don’t have a problem with people believing that people hundreds and thousands of years ago were black. I’d say they likely were up until some point in time.

Getting into who are the chosen people and any other s*** like that is when the radicalism comes into play. Which is when the conflicts come into play.

And because our people have had their history and ancestry ripped from them, that void is filled with anger and resent that becomes directed at someone else.