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  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    A song having a billion streams does not automatically equate to a major hit in the streaming era. There are deep cuts that reach a billion streams after years of being out, because that's possible now with streaming.

    You didn’t say major hit. Stop moving the goal posts. You said real hit. 1b streams is a hit no matter how you slice it.

  • Jun 9
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    In Your Eyes by The Weeknd has a billion streams, that's not a major hit record whatsoever he don't even perform it on tour

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    Jun 9

    congrats to drake on another week at #1

  • Elemental

    Funny how you completely ignore the nuance as to why this was the case lol. 2021 and 2025 music climates were completely different

    Jimmy Cooks spent longer on the Hot 100 than every song on CLB except for Knife Talk. Was 2022's climate drastically different from the climate in September 2021?

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    You didn’t say major hit. Stop moving the goal posts. You said real hit. 1b streams is a hit no matter how you slice it.

    Real hit = major hit

    I've literally always said major hit when talking about CLB, I mean the same thing when I say "real" hit

    1B streams isn't always a hit, not in the streaming era. It could easily be a deep cut that's just popular amongst the fanbase

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    peekaboo spent more weeks on the Hot 100 than every single song on CLB. That should answer the question about that album having huge songs lmao

    So heat waves and lose control have surpassed Blinding lights as the biggest hit of all time according to your logic?

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    In Your Eyes by The Weeknd has a billion streams, that's not a major hit record whatsoever he don't even perform it on tour

    You keep saying major hit when you said “real hit” at first. There’s a big difference it’s okay to admit you were wrong

  • Elemental

    So heat waves and lose control have surpassed Blinding lights as the biggest hit of all time according to your logic?

    On paper yes, those songs are more successful. But Blinding Lights is still the most-streamed song of all-time, so I think that's a big factor

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    Real hit = major hit

    I've literally always said major hit when talking about CLB, I mean the same thing when I say "real" hit

    1B streams isn't always a hit, not in the streaming era. It could easily be a deep cut that's just popular amongst the fanbase

    Real hit ≠ major hit
    Not all hits are created the same

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    You keep saying major hit when you said “real hit” at first. There’s a big difference it’s okay to admit you were wrong

    Real hit and major hit mean the exact same things to me. I use the terms interchangeably, they’re synonymous.

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    Real hit ≠ major hit
    Not all hits are created the same

    I’ve explained already that the terms are synonymous to me. If you can’t get that, then just think of “major hit” when I say real hit

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    Real hit and major hit mean the exact same things to me. I use the terms interchangeably, they’re synonymous.

    That’s the problem. They shouldn’t be used interchangeably. Language matters. You were wrong and that’s okay

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    I’ve explained already that the terms are synonymous to me. If you can’t get that, then just think of “major hit” when I say real hit

    “Major hit” is just cope to move the goalposts. You aren’t the determining factor that dictates what’s considered a hit or even a major hit

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    That’s the problem. They shouldn’t be used interchangeably. Language matters. You were wrong and that’s okay

    The words mean the exact same thing. If you say something is the “real deal”, you mean it is a very high quality version of whatever thing you’re talking about

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    “Major hit” is just cope to move the goalposts. You aren’t the determining factor that dictates what’s considered a hit or even a major hit

    It’s not cope at all, you told me that saying CLB doesn’t have a major hit was a personal anecdote and I provided numerous data points as to how I came to that conclusion

    Where’s the cope?

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    The words mean the exact same thing. If you say something is the “real deal”, you mean it is a very high quality version of whatever thing you’re talking about

    It’s not the same exact thing. A “real” hit doesn’t have the be “major” for it to be a hit

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    It’s not cope at all, you told me that saying CLB doesn’t have a major hit was a personal anecdote and I provided numerous data points as to how I came to that conclusion

    Where’s the cope?

    You provided multiple data points showing why you THINK it’s not a hit. 1b streams says otherwise
    A song doesn’t have to be massive for it be a hit. Once again, hits come in different forms. Not every hit song is a sure fire 10+ week #1

  • Jun 9
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    Dino

    It literally says that it is a longer running number 1 than clb right there, there's your measurable metric

    it says since clb

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    It’s not the same exact thing. A “real” hit doesn’t have the be “major” for it to be a hit

    It’s the exact same thing.

    Even if you don’t agree that it is, you’re ignoring the fact that I use the terms interchangeably and you’re harping on the fact to detract from everything else I said

  • Jun 9
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    Elemental

    You provided multiple data points showing why you THINK it’s not a hit. 1b streams says otherwise
    A song doesn’t have to be massive for it be a hit. Once again, hits come in different forms. Not every hit song is a sure fire 10+ week #1

    And again, I’ve said ten times now I’m referring to major hit records, I never said CLB didn’t have any hits at all

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    It’s the exact same thing.

    Even if you don’t agree that it is, you’re ignoring the fact that I use the terms interchangeably and you’re harping on the fact to detract from everything else I said

    I’m not ignoring the fact that you use the terms interchangeably. I literally keep on saying you’re wrong for doing so lol

  • Jun 9
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    shaleirose

    And again, I’ve said ten times now I’m referring to major hit records, I never said CLB didn’t have any hits at all

    Yeah you’ve made it clear now you’ve switched the goalposts. Who cares

  • Jun 9
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    redios

    it says since clb

    I missed that, but Iceman could still be his biggest album this decade depending on the longevity. Much more potential hits

  • Dino

    I missed that, but Iceman could still be his biggest album this decade depending on the longevity. Much more potential hits

    you're underestimating how big clb's numbers are streaming wise. Iceman is too rap focused to capture all the different demographics that clb did

  • Jun 10
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    shaleirose

    Best-selling and biggest are two entirely different things

    Drake is arguably the biggest rapper of all-time, but Eminem is still the best-selling rapper ever

    you make a great point here actually

    so what you’re confirming here is one is subjective and one is fact based, correct?