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  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    No, they're not close to his top 10 most streamed, but I never said they were his most popular songs ever. I said they were his most popular songs of this decade, which is undoubtedly true. He hasn't a solo smash hit record since Scorpion. All of his biggest songs since then have features

    Yeah thats my point, almost every drake fan i know hates how he has littered his pushed songs with s***ty features this decade

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    Bait

    How is it bait? The stats are there

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    How is it bait? The stats are there

    Tier above when Drake has been smashing her on streaming all year
    with far less songs

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    Yeah thats my point, almost every drake fan i know hates how he has littered his pushed songs with s***ty features this decade

    So why haven't they gravitated towards the 2020s solo songs then?

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    Tier above when Drake has been smashing her on streaming all year
    with far less songs

    That's full catalog, not new music

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    So why haven't they gravitated towards the 2020s solo songs then?

    Because theyre mostly the deeper cuts, not the pop rap stuff his fans want

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    Because theyre mostly the deeper cuts, not the pop rap stuff his fans want

    Ehh, that sounds like a lot of excuses

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    That's full catalog, not new music

    Right and when talking about tiers, everything should count. Drake is clearly a tier above, arguably 2 tiers above in the US

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    Ehh, that sounds like a lot of excuses

    You said it yourself a page ago

  • mangotflu

    You said it yourself a page ago

    I said that in reference to why an album like CLB did so well commercially without having a lot of rap on it

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    Right and when talking about tiers, everything should count. Drake is clearly a tier above, arguably 2 tiers above in the US

    No he is not. The tiers are determined by where your new music stands. The Weeknd is top 3/4 on Spotify every single year, but his newer music is not doing the same damage it was 5-6 years ago

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    No he is not. The tiers are determined by where your new music stands. The Weeknd is top 3/4 on Spotify every single year, but his newer music is not doing the same damage it was 5-6 years ago

    If we're judging an artists popularity based on their new music then The Weeknd isnt even a top 10-20 artist man

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    If we're judging an artists popularity based on their new music then The Weeknd isnt even a top 10-20 artist man

    That's exactly my point

    New music is the most important factor when judging an artist's popularity

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    That's exactly my point

    New music is the most important factor when judging an artist's popularity

    Lol not what you said a year ago. Crazy take, S***s on The Weeknd's whole career lol. Even I wouldn't say that s***

  • May 17
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    Taylor's fall off in the US doesn't get talked about enough man, it's actually insane. she's lost like 90% of her numbers in just 2-3 years

    she isnt finishing top 3 most streamed artists this year in US unless she drops again. S*** she might not even get top 5 if Olivia's album is a smash

  • mangotflu

    Lol not what you said a year ago. Crazy take, S***s on The Weeknd's whole career lol. Even I wouldn't say that s***

    Yes, and then his new album dropped, underperformed longterm, and my opinion changed with new information

  • May 17
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    mangotflu

    Taylor's fall off in the US doesn't get talked about enough man, it's actually insane. she's lost like 90% of her numbers in just 2-3 years

    she isnt finishing top 3 most streamed artists this year in US unless she drops again. S*** she might not even get top 5 if Olivia's album is a smash

    Meanwhile, she just sold 4M first week less than a year ago

    I don't like her music at all but being delusional about her commercial status is wild

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    Meanwhile, she just sold 4M first week less than a year ago

    I don't like her music at all but being delusional about her commercial status is wild

    She #1 but 4 million when only 500k was streaming is wild. Its still awesome bc the fans support and buy whatever she puts on that website. But streaming she’s in the same ballpark as Drake to be fair

  • May 17
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    Big Dog

    She #1 but 4 million when only 500k was streaming is wild. Its still awesome bc the fans support and buy whatever she puts on that website. But streaming she’s in the same ballpark as Drake to be fair

    The "only 500K streaming" was from only 12 songs, that's literally unheard of

  • May 17
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    70M on Day 2. 50% drop…

  • May 17
    shaleirose

    The "only 500K streaming" was from only 12 songs, that's literally unheard of

    There’s still partial truth to it though, and I say this as a Swiftie.

    The Folklore-Showgirl run (including re-releases) painted a picture of this unstoppable chart behemoth, which in many ways she obviously is, but not really when it comes to streaming, there are others who can compete with her there. The longevity of albums like TTPD and Showgirl (outside of The Fate of Ophelia) is a really big issue. Her biggest song of the past 3-4 years is one that came out in the Summer of 2019.

  • May 17
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    shaleirose

    70M on Day 2. 50% drop…

    https://twitter.com/popdatamusic/status/2056031316383019467

    That’s bad right?

  • Might do under 500k then with this drop

  • May 17
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    Got curious and decided to see how ICEMAN's first-to-second day Spotify performance would compare to CLB's and FATD's. Below are the Top 5 Streamed songs from each album's debut day on both the Global Chart and USA Chart. First number is what they streamed the first day, second is what they streamed the second day, and the numbers in parentheses are where they were on the chart for both days.

    GLOBAL FIRST DAY TO SECOND DAY:

    CLB:
    1. Girls Want Girls: 12.3M -> 7.6M (1 to 2)
    2. Champagne Poetry: 11.6M -> 5.7M (2 to 6)
    3. Fair Trade: 11.6M -> 7.3M (Stayed at 3)
    4. Papi’s Home: 10M -> 4.9M (5 to 8)
    5. Way 2 Sexy: 9.5M -> 6.3M (6 to 4)

    Average Percentage Drop: 44.8

    9 Songs in Top 10 -> 6 Songs in Top 10

    FATD:
    1. Virginia Beach: 8M -> 4.9M (1 to 7)
    2. First Person Shooter: 8M -> 5.9M (2 to 3)
    3. IDGAF: 7.5M -> 5.6M (3 to 4)
    4. Calling For You: 7.3M -> 4.1M (4 to 14)
    5. Fear Of Heights: 6.3M -> 3.7M (7 to 19)

    Average Percentage Drop: 34.6%

    7 Songs in Top 10 -> 3 Songs in Top 10

    ICEMAN:
    1. Make Them Cry: 13.2M -> 4.9M (1 to 8)
    2. Dust: 10.9M -> 4.5M (2 to 12)
    3. Ran To Atlanta: 10.8M -> 5.2M (3 to 5)
    4. Whisper My Name: 10.7M -> 5.1M (4 to 7)
    5. Janice STFU: 9.5M -> 5.2M (5 to 6)

    Average Percentage Drop: 53.6%

    Full Top 10 -> 5 Songs in the Top 10

    USA FIRST DAY TO SECOND DAY:

    CLB:
    1. Girls Want Girls: 6.1M -> 3.4M (Stayed at 1)
    2. Champagne Poetry: 5.9M -> 2.7M (2 to 4)
    3. Fair Trade: 5.6M -> 3.3M (3 to 2)
    4. Papi’s Home: 5.1M -> 2.3M (4 to 7)
    5. Way 2 Sexy: 4.9M -> 3.2M (5 to 3)

    Average Percentage Drop: 45.4%

    Full Top 10 -> Full Top 10

    FATD:
    1. First Person Shooter: 4.4M -> 2.9M (Stayed at 1)
    2. Virginia Beach: 4.2M -> 2.2M (2 to 3)
    3. IDGAF: 4M -> 2.6M (3 to 2)
    4. Calling For You: 3.8M -> 1.8M (Stayed at 4)
    5. Fear Of Heights: 3.3M -> 1.7M (5 to 7)

    Average Percentage Drop: 43.2%

    Full Top 10 -> Full Top 10

    ICEMAN:
    1. Make Them Cry: 5.9M -> 2M (1 to 6)
    2. Ran To Atlanta: 5.1M -> 2.4M (2 to 1)
    3. Dust: 5.1M -> 2M (3 to 7)
    4. Whisper My Name: 5M -> 2.2M (Stayed at 2)
    5. Janice STFU: 4.5M -> 2.3M (5 to 2)

    Average Percentage Drop: 56%

    Full Top 10 -> 9 Songs in the Top 10

    So far, the drop for ICEMAN has been significantly higher than both CLB and FATD. I wonder how much of that is the additional two albums coming into play

  • May 17
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    Hurry Up Lefkol

    That’s bad right?

    First-to-second day drops for CLB and FATD compared to ICEMAN:

    CLB: 155M -> 89M = 41.4% drop
    FATD: 109M -> 75M = 31.1% drop
    ICEMAN: 140M -> 70M = 50% drop

    It's not great, but it most likely is a result of the two additional albums