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  • Dec 13, 2024

    Uzi & Carti succeeded from SoundCloud fully in like 2016-17, I don’t understand taxing their entire career arch to that one era everything after that was b******ized & kinda terrible to me even in real time so maybe I agree with the meat of what you’re saying here but not wholly

  • Dec 13, 2024
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    cryforhell

    Trippie hasn’t eclipsed 100K FW sales this decade brother

    My bad. I read that wrong but the biggest stars from that era that had the most potential for more longevity died too early (X, Juice, and Peep). I think we could've potentially gotten some classics from all 3 of these guys but we'll never get to see that. Overall though, I feel like you could do this for any era. Not everyone becomes a superstar with longevity, the majority of rappers have a shelf life of about 5 years. These days, you'll be lucky to be relevant for 2+ years. Also Idk if this is a hot take but I think Goodbye and Good Riddance is a classic for it's era

  • Dec 13, 2024

    if carti is your last hope then its a wrap

  • Dec 13, 2024
    tomorrow volverse

    2 Chainz isn't a blog era rapper

    Why not

  • Dec 13, 2024

    would be a superstar today

  • Dec 13, 2024
    burymeinecko

    My bad. I read that wrong but the biggest stars from that era that had the most potential for more longevity died too early (X, Juice, and Peep). I think we could've potentially gotten some classics from all 3 of these guys but we'll never get to see that. Overall though, I feel like you could do this for any era. Not everyone becomes a superstar with longevity, the majority of rappers have a shelf life of about 5 years. These days, you'll be lucky to be relevant for 2+ years. Also Idk if this is a hot take but I think Goodbye and Good Riddance is a classic for it's era

    Not everyone becomes a superstar sure, but a lot of the blog era rappers I listed have classics if not multiple in their catalog and had respectable careers at the very least.

    No living rapper from the SoundCloud era has even ran a year in hip hop before. Even Lil Baby did so in 2020

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    Dec 13, 2024
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    cryforhell

    Niggas from the past era are having some of their biggest years ever and are at the top of the game rn

    such as whom

  • Dec 13, 2024
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    Nayuta

    such as whom

    If I do the work for u then u won’t learn anything

    Who made all of the biggest rap albums of 2024?

  • Dec 13, 2024
    Lou

    Good rap has only come from those grandfathered in

    Crazy to say with an earl avi

  • Dec 13, 2024
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    I think it’s unfair to judge the soundcloud era the same way as other eras of rap just because of how different the mold of publicity and career was

    There was no label, no radio, (almost) no algorithm. Basically all hype came from your features with other artists and how those songs did on the social media paradigm or through exposure from other artists (Drake posting SKRT, Carti and Ricky, thug at YZYSZN3)

    It was an era where anyone and everyone had a voice in what could be the mainstream, even if it was just a shout. The era definitely didn’t age well and its legacy is messy, but it has my respect.

    Everyone felt like they were cashing in on some kind of hype and the community was really active

  • Dec 13, 2024

    I wish death on no man and what happened is a tragedy but I believe if X Juice and Peep would have continued, rap music would be in a worse place and this era of (pardon my dust) slop would’ve been unnecessarily prolonge.

    What was the era that immediately proceeded this? What would you call it?

  • Dec 13, 2024
    cryforhell

    Trippie hasn’t eclipsed 100K FW sales this decade brother

    He’s still one of the most streamed artists of his decade

  • Dec 13, 2024
    DAVID P

    I guess the parameters aren't well defined. When I talk about SoundCloud rap I'm mainly associating it with the comically dumb appearances, little to no rapping ability, carried entirely by beats, and relying on gimmicks to keep their young audience hooked. Basically just glorified meme rappers.

    I wouldn't ever consider someone like Post Malone in that or even close to that area.

    I get what you’re saying

  • Dec 13, 2024
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    if like 90% of them die what are you even supposed to judge? we would be saying the same s*** if drake and kendrick got killed in 2012 or something

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    DAVID P

    I guess the parameters aren't well defined. When I talk about SoundCloud rap I'm mainly associating it with the comically dumb appearances, little to no rapping ability, carried entirely by beats, and relying on gimmicks to keep their young audience hooked. Basically just glorified meme rappers.

    I wouldn't ever consider someone like Post Malone in that or even close to that area.

    You’re just being silly about it than actually taking the discussion somewhat seriously

  • Dec 13, 2024

    Carti 21 Yachty Uzi Kodak is a decent crop but yea it's hard to compare any historical era to the group that came out 2009-2013. Any era will look unsuccessful compared to those guys.

  • Dec 13, 2024
    americana

    I think it’s unfair to judge the soundcloud era the same way as other eras of rap just because of how different the mold of publicity and career was

    There was no label, no radio, (almost) no algorithm. Basically all hype came from your features with other artists and how those songs did on the social media paradigm or through exposure from other artists (Drake posting SKRT, Carti and Ricky, thug at YZYSZN3)

    It was an era where anyone and everyone had a voice in what could be the mainstream, even if it was just a shout. The era definitely didn’t age well and its legacy is messy, but it has my respect.

    Everyone felt like they were cashing in on some kind of hype and the community was really active

    Good take

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    americana

    You’re just being silly about it than actually taking the discussion somewhat seriously

    He’s right though. It’s hard to take soundcloud rap seriously when it was all face tattoos, coloured dreads and social media antics to make up for their s***ty music.

  • Nayuta 🐯
    Dec 13, 2024
    cryforhell

    If I do the work for u then u won’t learn anything

    Who made all of the biggest rap albums of 2024?

    you making the discussion but can't say who you think fits the mold of biggest rappers this year

    who do you got that's not named future, kendrick, or travis

  • Dec 13, 2024
    Plight2

    if like 90% of them die what are you even supposed to judge? we would be saying the same s*** if drake and kendrick got killed in 2012 or something

    Eh. By then Drake and Kendrick proved they were more than just potential. Don’t get there yet with X and Juice

  • Dec 13, 2024

    I thought I was getting old in this era and that’s why I dislike the music but fast forward a few years and I enjoy Ken Carson a bunch. It really was just garbage times

  • Dec 13, 2024
    Giordano

    He’s right though. It’s hard to take soundcloud rap seriously when it was all face tattoos, coloured dreads and social media antics to make up for their s***ty music.

    IMO there was great music

    Just a LOT of artists so a lot of spread

  • Dec 13, 2024

    the issue with the soundcloud era is that unlike the blog era it was defined more by an aesthetic and work ethos more than anything else. the blog era was more of an entire legitimate "era" and period of music that covered an extreme variety of disparate artists. its kind of similar to comparing "90s rap" to "bling rap".
    the former was essentially a mass categorization of tons of different rap - not only did it have 2Pac and Biggie et al but it also had Def Jux, Rhymesayers (technically), etc. That all falls under "90s" despite there being a massive diversity of acts and music. "Bling Rap" isn't just another term for the early 2000s because it was also contemporary to like, Cam'ron, Kanye, etc.
    by comparison "Soundcloud Era" is very similar in that its not really just "mid-2010s contemporary" considering that's also when there were lots of break out acts like Cardi B, etc. (could even argue this is when r&b/rap crossover peaked considering stuff like Trapsoul was 2015 and Free 6lack was 2016).
    "soundcloud rap" was always more of an overarching aesthetic and sub-genre more than it was an era. to me this is like saying why did the mid 00s conscious scene not produce a superstar, it was just something happening derivative of the actual era it happened inside of, not an era in and of itself

  • Dec 13, 2024
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    cryforhell

    (For context, I’m referring strictly to the era between 2015-2018. Also excluding artists like Post, Kodak and 21 who had brief stints of being relatively underground but were never really apart of that culture.)

    With 2 out of the 3 biggest artists being dead (X and Juice) and Uzi’s rapid career decline, Carti’s next album is the last shred of hope for that era’s lasting impact. Just think about it from the perspective of success, impact and influence. I’ll stick to the major players of that time:

    Uzi, Carti, Yachty, X, Juice, Pump, Smokepurpp, Peep, Tracy, Ski Mask, Trippie Redd, Zillakami, 6ix9ine, MadeinTYO, Famous Dex, D Savage, Rich The Kid, Lucki, Fauni and Uno

    At most, there’s like 6 considerable classic albums between all of them (LUVVTW, LIR2, Die Lit, WLR and FW3. Maybe ?). Not only that but the only ones to have sold over 100K FW post-2020 are Uzi, Juice (posthumous) and Carti, so most of them are not critically or commercially acclaimed. Most, if not all, of these artists have either completely fallen off or their career’s show brief signs of life before returning back to obscurity (Yachty’s run in 2023 and Rich the Kid on Carnival)

    In comparison, the blog era scene that came right before them has clearly cemented their influence and legacy while maintaining relevancy despite most of them being way past their prime and are all 30+. The big three goes without saying, every now and then Cudi does something exciting, Tyler just had the biggest debut of his career, Future and Travis are still in their commercial prime, Thug considered one of the most influential rappers of today and still going strong, there’s still anticipation for a Rocky album in 2024, etc.. Not to mention SEVERAL classics amongst them and imprints that have bred some of the hottest acts out rn (PgLang, AWGE, OVO, OF, Dreamville, FBG and YSL vs…. Opium and Crete?)

    Even the smaller artists are still very respected or seeing success while pursuing other things outside of music. Black Hippy still has an active fanbase and Earl had a sleeper hit this year, while you have Nast in fashion, Joey in film/tv, Ross’ businesses ventures, Meek with political reforms in Philly, 2 Chainz owning stake in the G-League to name a few

    I think if Carti can’t stick the landing with IAM, it’s a wrap for that era for good. He’s the last living torchbearer that can sell well while also delivering quality music if he puts in the effort, yet he still has a lot to prove to truly earn his respect universally

    Other than him, what’s there to say about the remaining stragglers? I don’t think any of them have the talent or appeal (aside from potentially Uzi who has clearly lost his confidence and has an uphill battle before he’s respected as an artist again) to make any substantial impact going forward. If Carti doesn’t at the very least come close to meeting the insane amounts of hype that he’s set himself up with, it’s probably over for that era

    What do y'all think? To me it’s looking more and more like the naysayers got it right back then which is sad bc I grew up on these artists and defended them so seeing that era get left behind kinda sucks

    Who cares about sales man.

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    DJ7A7A

    facts on no classic albums
    other than LIR2 and ? there are NO other classics from that era

    17 was better than ?