Corporate Mór

1y

And you ain't even finish the Donald album

cryforhell

1y

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So I’ve listened to all of Tyler’s consensus best material and imo he’s one of the most overrated rappers out rn. This thread is made because I genuinely want to understand what makes him a great artist to those that enjoy him

He’s literally one of the only artist I’ve ever seen that has been largely carried by their relationships within the industry and how they’re perceived by their peers as well as having a very dedicated fanbase yet no amazing records or universal hits to really show for it. Like logically he’s the natural successor of the lineage of Ye, Pharrell, etc. but it’s not translating the way it should be, like at all. To make matters worse it’s not like his sound needs to grow on you either it’s pretty standard alt-rap

His production is good despite it being imitative but he is just not a good composer and has an issue with being over-ambitious with a clear reluctancy to cutting out the excess fat. Almost every song on Chromakopia is a chore to get through and fits better in context of the album than as individual singles because of how over the top they are. Like Sticky is such a lay up of a hit but it’s just too busy of a f***ing song to listen to on a regular basis

Also, I don’t think him self-producing most of his albums is as a good of a thing as he gets credited for. You can’t make MBDTF or TPAB by self-producing everything. At some point the sound becomes trite and outsourcing to better or other creative minds is a good thing and a fresher take on your artistry

He has a great rapping voice and is a pretty solid rapper but when he tries to switch it up and sing he’s been reliant on the crutch of pitching up his vocals since Flower Boy instead of just taking singing lessons at this point. It’s jarring as f*** to hear that every time he tries to hit notes, I’d rather he use different vocal effects to make it sound less grating

Realistically most users on this site should be a fan of his or at least feel positively about his music but he occupies this awkward space of being too weird for the casuals and not good enough to satisfy the high-brows. He doesn’t have a plethora of hit songs or classic rap albums that are universally appraised or songs that stick on the charts that justify the praise either. Kanye is basically his predecessor and even though he’s generally seen as an artist whose fans are mostly on the “artsy/nerdy” side, he has hits and projects that transcend his demographic. I can bet that most old heads know a Travis Scott song or two and casuals love his albums so there’s no reason why Tyler’s music shouldn’t have a similar affect to some degree

I do think he has the makings of a great artist but he’s put on an extremely high pedestal that I don’t think he’s deserving of

EDIT: Quite a number of folks ITT are misconstruing what I meant by “carried” by other artists, so I’ll add my response here:

He didn’t make it this far by piggybacking off of his relationships, he did it off his own merit. Despite this, his relationships to respected artists has embellished his career without a doubt. Be it OF producing Earl, Frank, The Internet, Steve Lacy + more or his proximity to Pharrell, Rocky, Mac Miller, Solange, etc. all of these connects have benefited his career through osmosis because it feels like he SHOULD be amongst the biggest in the game even if the music hasn’t quite reached the level of those that are from a cultural standpoint. I mean, his friends are universally loved so why wouldn’t he be?

Not only that but his devout fanbase is probably a melting pot of his own fans, remnants of OF’s fanbase and fans of these other artists that adore him

OHMNI

1y

concept albums becaue the internet what tyler album do you have above because the internet

this is a direct question this is a clear question please do not misinterpret this question because whoever misinterprets this cquesiton or characterizes what I am saying is getting blocked

Bernie X

1y

I think Tyler is better but why are we acting like it’s insane to think anything else

This is yalls problem lmao

x3c

1y

Also Tyler deserves credit for dropping a B side album on the anniversary of his projects with just the instrumentals, it’s all I’ve been listening to as of late

insertcoolnamehere

1y

and Tyler by his own admission made his first joint in 2004

OHMNI

1y

I SAID BEACUSE THE INTERNET WAS BETTER YOU STUPID B****

I HOPE YOU INFERTILE THERE IS ALREADY NOT LIFE IN YOUR SOUL LESS CORPSE AND YOUR BEST TACTIC IS GASLIGHTING PEOPLE

IF YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOUR CARCASS OF A BODY HOW CAN YOU PRODUCE LIFE?

GO TO A SPERM DONOR GRAB A TURKEY BASTER AND PRAY ITS TYLERS SEMEN IN THERE

Corporate Mór

1y

Look at you. Tyler haters are all the same. Unstable

Corporate Mór

1y

More artists need to do this for sure

Corporate Mór

1y

Because Tyler's criticisms ITT have been inauthenticity and inorganic progression

Gambino made a Sly Family parody and then went on to produce inconsistent bodies of work; fake retiring, then disappear

Corporate Mór

1y

Look at you. Tyler haters are all the same. Unstable

deleteduser579

1y

bro that nigga Gambino is ASS

god damn y’all let nostalgia run everything

OHMNI

1y

I dont hate tyler he was my most listened artist that month...

9thWonderful

1y

Not liking Tyler is fine but saying he only made this far due to connections is crazy. That's just just flat out wrong

Corporate Mór

1y

You're a weirdo for running 12 pages bashing your most listened to artist of the Month